X-TOL devtimes under continuous agitation

[irq506]

I recently came into the posession of a very nice Jobo 5 roll tank and reels (2551) and though I have no Jobo machine I have just bought a "Roller Base" for it which basically allows me to hand roll the tank without the need for a machine to do it for me. Its cheap and cheaful way to process a lot of film and use little or no chemicals in the proesss.
however, so far I havent done any processing at all because I havent been able to get any times or at least a percentage time breakdown for using constant agitation under Kodak XTOL and fuji Neopan 400 rated at 800.
now if someone could actually point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
J

 

[lZr]

Ok. Let's go.

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4017/f4017.jhtml

 

[irq506]

Ok. Let's go.

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4017/f4017.jhtml

OK, this is for Tri-X. I am Fuji Neopan 400 rated at 800.

 

[lZr]

Again, let's go:
http://www.fujifilmusa.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/proPhotoProductsNeopan.jsp
Download Data sheet

 

[markinlondon]

The rule of thumb for continuous agitation is about 15% less time than for intermittent agitation. A bit of testing around that figure will get it.

 

[irq506]

Awesome information people!
I am using kodak XTOL without dilution.
That kodak chart is a good thing to have for reference but its something Id really need to actually print out and have a hard copy of -I dont have a printer yet.

 

[PHOTOEIL]

I do not know if this is the right way to do nor do i know if i am allowed to, but here is a pdf of the X-tol datacheet by Kodak, i hope this kan help you.
Good luck,

 

[irq506]

I do not know if this is the right way to do nor do i know if i am allowed to, but here is a pdf of the X-tol datacheet by Kodak, i hope this kan help you.
Good luck,

Thats the one "J109".
maybe I should make a new post for this but does anyone here have experience using Diafine in continuous agitation? I ask because its a cemical reactive developer so basically you can drop your film in let it sit for 3 minutes with little agitation pour out and then use part B for the same amount of time. I understand that it needs almost no agitation except for a small amount at the start mainly to cover the film.

 

[irq506]

I wouldn't necessarily use X-tol in this way, at least I don't know anyone that does. Usually with continuous agitation you would be better off with a dilute developer that has a compensating action, otherwise your contrast will go through the roof. Rodinal 1:100 and some of the pyro/catchetol developers are well known and used for this.

Well thats the very thing, this combination of undiluted XTOL and Neopan seems to work beautifully in standard inversion processing, the range of grey tones are just out of this world and grain is minimum.
So yes Im looking at my entire processing methods right now, and everything is under revision. I just want to get some guidlines and ideas of what to watch out for regarding the change of developing method; from Inversion to Tube.