Zero interest in the A7 or A7r - who is with me?

What they will do though, without any doubt, is become irrepairable paperweights/bookends/doorstops/landfill long before any of the aforementioned optical/mechanical marvels.

Yes, they are tools and if used at a decent rate they pay for themselves since you do not buy film for them.
 
@ redisburning...

Eventually, cameras will likely have sensors in the hundreds, perhaps thousands of megapixels - who can forecast ?

It doesn't matter a jot, they still won't take ''better'' photographs. Only the photographer's brain can do that....
 
Sony, a company without a real history in photography, tries to get a grip on users that like cameras like this. It is a bet almost certain lost.
(yeap, I don't like it, I'd rather that Nikon FM2 alike).

Minor thing you're overlooking - Sony make some of the best camera sensors available in the market today

They must know a thing or two better ... Than most of the other players?
 
@ redisburning...

It doesn't matter a jot, they still won't take ''better'' photographs. Only the photographer's brain can do that....

I mean I got a book about the glass flowers owned by Harvard taken all on 4x5 slides and stuff like that definitely is made better by technical image quality.

some photography legitimately IS about technical image quality.
 
@ redisburning....

I agree that in certain specialised circumstances, heightened technical image quality, as made possible (and easier !) by large negatives/high pixel count sensors can be desirable but how often in real life is it really necessary ?

After all, John Shaw's work with 35mm Nikon SLR's show what can be done with the small film format when used with skill and talent....
 
Industar 61 on a7 (not r)
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Krzysztof Szablisty

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btw, a7r is sold out till Jan at many outlets, supposedly.
 
well thats what technology can do, take a nothing picture and make it look pretty damned good.

its such a downer reading these threads, and realising how 'unenthusiastic' are camera 'enthusiasts' whenever a new product is released. its always about putting it down, tamping enthusiasm, what it cant do, why its not better than i have now, and how real photgraphers make magic with a pinhole poked through dog poop. whats wrong with enjoying the advances of technology, looking forward to them and embracing them with 'enthusiasm'? maybe the latest isnt right for you, but how about seeing past that to why it might be right for lots of others?!

honestly, this thread should be entitlled 'im sitting in a yurt listening to my walkman and cleaning my behind with a leaf--who's with me'?

i'm tuning this out and instead venturing forth to take pictures with dog poop...
 
honestly, this thread should be entitlled 'im sitting in a yurt listening to my walkman and cleaning my behind with a leaf--who's with me'?
LOL Ken, u gettin this?

one of the funniest posts I've seen ever, and highly accurate.

This camera has your wit very very sharp :)
 
What's with some of you? I expressed a lack of enthusiasm that Sony abandoned the rangefinderlike form factor of the NEX7 for a central VF hump. Certain members are acting like I raped their cat and peed in the corner of their living room.

And I wonder why I don't come here very often anymore.
 
Pretty sure that the hump was needed to house the EVF given that the body contains a larger sensor and electronics. I've the A7r on order and will cancel should reviews undermine my enthusiasm. Right now, the hump is of no real concern to me. My NEX-7 and 6 are nothing like my rangefinders. The X 100 gets a bit closer.
 
The hump has another potential benefit for some of us: left-eye shooters might find their nose doesn't end up smudging the rear LCD.

For me the shape of the camera is fine. It's about the same shape and size as a small film SLR like the Contax 139 I'm looking at right now.
 
As a left eyed shooter and wearing glasses, I like rangefinder style much better. On an slr style body I can hardly use any button on the back of a camera.
 
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