raid
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The reason I asked the question is that in the M3 there are no frames shown with the 45mm lens. The entire VF is closer to a 40mm view. That should work. I will make sure that I leave some room outside the frame. The 28mm lens brings up the 90mm frame in the M6.
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Which frame does the 45 show on the M6?
The 28 appears to use a 28/90 LTM adapter.
The 28 appears to use a 28/90 LTM adapter.
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Which frame does the 45 show on the M6?
The 28 appears to use a 28/90 LTM adapter.
The M6 seems to bring up the 40mm frames. I don't have any camera or external VF for the 40mm-45mm frames, so I am guessing. The entire VF shows about 50mm, doesn't it? I am going by that.
OK I'm confused. There are no 40mm frames on an M6. These are the possibilities:
28/90
35/135
50/75
28/90
35/135
50/75
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OK I'm confused. There are no 40mm frames on an M6. These are the possibilities:
28/90
35/135
50/75
You have a point here.
Must be 50/75. I goofed. The wider angle view is of course outside the narrow angle view. Silly me. Since the entire view is about 50mm, the inner frame may be the 75mm frame.
Is this reasonable?
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Yes, it seems reasonable that they would use a 50/75 LTM adapter to bring up the 50mm frames with the 45/2.
cam
the need for speed
so why not use the 50 frames with both cams to keep consistent -- but be aware that you'll get a little more with each.
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I used the entire VF for the 45mm lens on the M3. There is a need to have a 45mm VF here. Does anyone make an external 45mm VF?
I just got back from doing my first lens field test. The focusing was more awkward than on most other RF lens I own.You have to use your finger(s) carefully to rotate the focus ring without changing the aperture ring. This would be very difficult to do when wearing gloves in cold weather. Of course, the expectations are high that the resulting images will look very nice with these two lenses.
I just got back from doing my first lens field test. The focusing was more awkward than on most other RF lens I own.You have to use your finger(s) carefully to rotate the focus ring without changing the aperture ring. This would be very difficult to do when wearing gloves in cold weather. Of course, the expectations are high that the resulting images will look very nice with these two lenses.
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This is how the two lenses look on the M3 and the M8. Th Biogon sports a Contax lens hood while the Planar sports a Nikon lens hood. I use one of my worst looking camera bags for my Leica lenses. Does this make any sense?!

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My feeling is that this set-up is most likely going to be targeted by collectors of unique lenses more than photographers who want the G-M lenses for the sake of photography. It feels good to own lenses that few people own and use. Such lenses may not attain the status of "rare" since they were not produced by the original manufacturer. They are similar to what Brian puts together. Maybe they become collectible in 40 years and maybe not. I just use what Brian kindly sends my way.
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Side note: My skin is not pink [as shown in the pics taken with a digital camera]. 
Kent
Finally at home...
Side note: My skin is not pink [as shown in the pics taken with a digital camera].![]()
I can confirm!
Hi, Raid!
Great to see that you got this fantastic opportunity. Wow!
I'm looking forward to seeing the results...
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Snorting silver salts
Dirk seems to be a friendly person for offering me to use the two lenses.
I can tell from both his name and his nature he must be Dutch
Well, maybe he's Flemish, but those buys just live a life in denial about being Dutch anyway
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I can confirm!(But actually, it's the flash not the sensor that turns your skin pink.)
Hi, Raid!
Great to see that you got this fantastic opportunity. Wow!
I'm looking forward to seeing the results...
Hello Kent,
Good to see you here again.
The flash is the reason why I appear pinkl skinned!
I am glad that I am given this opportunity.
Today, I shot one roll with the 45mm lens, except for two frames with the 28mm Biogon. The aperture ring has a faint white line by which you set the aperture. In one of the lenses, that white line is nearly gone already. There is a need for longer lasting marking for the aperture setting. I am not being picky, but I want to provide useful information.
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I can tell from both his name and his nature he must be Dutch
Well, maybe he's Flemish, but those buys just live a life in denial about being Dutch anyway![]()
Yes, Dirk is either a German or a Dutch name. [I think]
I used the entire VF for the 45mm lens on the M3. There is a need to have a 45mm VF here. Does anyone make an external 45mm VF?
The actual focal length (which is measured for each lens and stated in the test certificate [not included in your demo pack]) is slightly more than 45mm, usually around 46-47mm (your is 46.2mm). If you think you need an external finder, feel free, but you have seen my comparison of the G with the ZM and the Hexanon, and the Hexanon is definitely longer than 50mm and I doubt you'd want an external finder for 2-3mm difference.
http://www.japanexposures.com/lenscomparison/index.html
Thank you for writing down your experiences publicly.
I disagree in the collector's notion though. These lenses are made for users and to "resurrect" the G lenses to enjoy a new lease of life.
raid
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Hi Dirk,
I used the VF of the M3 for the 45mm lens without an external VF but I used an external VF for the 28mm lens. I usually do not comment much beyond showing results. The people here at RFF will be themselves be able to decide. There are about 40% of the RFF members who do not approve of such comparisons but the remaining 60% do.
Ken Rockwell already did his formal testing of these lenses. I will make comnparisons and observations.
What I meant by collectors targeting such lenses is the fact that these lenses are quite unique and circulation wise there will be fewer lenses than the regular G1/G2 lenses or any of the 28mm-50mm Leica M lenses.
Now if I could only keep one of these lenses .... :angel:
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I used the VF of the M3 for the 45mm lens without an external VF but I used an external VF for the 28mm lens. I usually do not comment much beyond showing results. The people here at RFF will be themselves be able to decide. There are about 40% of the RFF members who do not approve of such comparisons but the remaining 60% do.
Ken Rockwell already did his formal testing of these lenses. I will make comnparisons and observations.
What I meant by collectors targeting such lenses is the fact that these lenses are quite unique and circulation wise there will be fewer lenses than the regular G1/G2 lenses or any of the 28mm-50mm Leica M lenses.
Now if I could only keep one of these lenses .... :angel:
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