Fujifilm X-Pro1 details leaked!!!

alien8 said:
I'm not sure. I think it will be more of a hit, actually. I think a system camera has inherently broader appeal than a fixed lens camera with a single focal length. Also, the price is more than I can afford, but not unreasonable if you compare it with a high end aps dslr like a canon 7D. Wasn't that model about the same price when it was launched?
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I see your point, but I'm not sold. The X100 was the first of its type and was priced way lower... fixed lens is a minus to some and a plus to others. $1200 got you a body and a lens. Now, it'll be $2300 for the same. Still reasonable to me, but likely many will still opt for the DSLR option since it is the mainstream camera type in use and is more versatile for seemingly less money. Many mainstream camera buyers think zooms are cool.

As for legacy lenses, no camera has done it 100% right yet and suspect the X-Pro1 won't either.
 
jsrockit said:
I see your point, but I'm not sold. The X100 was the first of its type and was priced way lower... fixed lens is a minus to some and a plus to others. $1200 got you a body and a lens. Now, it'll be $2300 for the same. Still reasonable to me, but likely many will still opt for the DSLR option since it is the mainstream camera type in use and is more versatile for seemingly less money. Many mainstream camera buyers think zooms are cool.

As for legacy lenses, no camera has done it 100% right yet and suspect the X-Pro1 won't either.
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to me 100% right means FF, no crop factor, no messing with the FL of my favorite lenses! i cant see dropping this much coin on a crop factor cam, though it is gorgeous and has me drooling! and i do wish fuji well for shaking up the market and putting some real quality gear out there.
 
People are still paying $2000 for an M8 body!

Common people, lets get real here, this thing will sell like, I don't know, a new Apple product or something...
 
I noticed this interesting comment on DPR:



"Seems like the sensor will create very nice random noise (may end up looking like film grain) This is due to the 6x6 color array. People that shoot B&W at high iso will love this"
 
rbelyell said:
to me 100% right means FF, no crop factor, no messing with the FL of my favorite lenses!
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That's a unicorn. The engineering required to make lenses that come so close to the sensor work in the corners is immense. It took Leica years to do it, along with proprietary coding schemes and a big price tag.

Someone might be able to produce a mirrorless full-frame system with all new lenses designed to work with sensors, but you'll never see someone come up with a FF system that works as well with legacy lenses as the M9 (and successors, presumably).
 
Yes, if the focus-by-wire (FBW?) is no better than the X100's, then the presence of those luscious-looking focus rings on the lenses will be a constant reminder of disappointment.

On the other hand, if manual-focus lenses can be adapted, such that focus confirmation is useful, that will be awesome. I wonder if some sort of focus-peaking scheme in EVF mode is in the future?

::Ari
 
certainly not a unicorn as thats something that doesnt exist. i think coming up with the technology is just a matter of coming up with the technology. i mean we're not talking about putting a man on the moon here, and oh yeah we did that over 40 years ago...

nothings ever 'been done' until its been done!
 
The X100 focusing wasn't designed to translate directly from turning the focus ring to lens movement, that was the problem there, not FBW in and of itself.
 
I watched both Fuji guys videos and NOT ONCE did he let us hear the shutter sounds! What's the first thing you do when holding a new camera? Right, you listen to all the shutter speeds.
 
Awesome that they included a way to manually input lens focal lengths - for those who'll use their M-mount lenses on the camera. We won't have to get our lenses x-mount coded.;)
 
celluloidprop said:
That's a unicorn. The engineering required to make lenses that come so close to the sensor work in the corners is immense. It took Leica years to do it, along with proprietary coding schemes and a big price tag.

Someone might be able to produce a mirrorless full-frame system with all new lenses designed to work with sensors, but you'll never see someone come up with a FF system that works as well with legacy lenses as the M9 (and successors, presumably).
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There is a rumor that Fuji will announce the developing of a new camera full-frame, mirrorless and interchangeable system:

A new “Fuji legendary fullframe rumor” is circulating right before the press release

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I think it's false, too - but if it were true, I bet we're talking $4-5k to start with. I don't see anyone cheaply bending the laws of physics re: the angles of light from a lens hitting a 35mm sensor at the edges.

I seem to recall the organic sensor idea maaaaaaybe taking care of this, but that technology doesn't appear to be ready for primetime.
 
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