About image quality...

About image quality...

  • I think gear is really secondary... Best possible IQ is almost irrelevant if an image is great...

    Votes: 168 95.5%

  • I don't think an image is great unless it's great and also made with the best gear possible...

    Votes: 8 4.5%
  • Total voters
    176
Depending on the course you choose, you can also be an idiot...

There's a difference between asserting that Leicas (or sociology, or media studies) appeal only to idiots, and asserting that some idiots choose Leicas, sociology or media studies.

Cheers,

R.
 
Roger Hicks said:
You've clearly never seen me being antagonistic.
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I have seen you making new threads complaining for english grammar and spelling in a international forum.

Roger Hicks said:
You are making assumptions (your original word was 'guess' -- unwarranted, I believe, no matter what your terminology) on the basis of casual observation.
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Shoot me for being a non english mother tongue.

Why do you make things up by implying my observations to be casual?

Roger Hicks said:
I believe you're wrong. I've had plenty of time to look at the sort of prejudice you express: I've been using Leicas since 1969; M-series since 1973; and I bought my first new M lens in the late 1970s. My Leicas have been a part of my earning a living for 30+ years. Of course I could be wrong too. I just wanted to find out the basis of your views.

Cheers,

R.
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The same again. You take me as prejudiced. I am a proud Leica owner and user.

How can you say you believe I am wrong?
I saw what I saw. Were you standing behind me and seeing it 'right'.

I accuse you as an agitator. You are twisting things that people say.

I am new here and I had some great help and sympathy from some members allready, but I will converse with you no more.
 
j j said:
No one looks, cares, notices or is impressed (ever, apart from the moment I bought it when a bloke from Japan walked in the shop, beamed excitedly, pointed and exclaimed "CONTAX" in a loud voice).
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... how do know that he was from Japan ?
 
Gumby said:
Well, I still have questions. If idiots like Leica, then what camera is the preference of imbeciles or morons?
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Everyone knows that we imbeciles prefer Canon and that morons prefer Nikon. As far as cretins go well they prefer Pentax and of course everyone knows that spastics prefer Olympus.
 
Mcary said:
Everyone knows that we imbeciles prefer Canon and that morons prefer Nikon. As far as cretins go well they prefer Pentax and of course everyone knows that spastics prefer Olympus.
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Minox? I have a Minox GL and feel left out..p.
 
Just like a pinhole camera using 120 film... If you want to consider those things just like a Hasselblad because of used film's measurements, and not depending on lenses or real final quality, you're on your own right.

Cheers,

Juan
 
I don't believe in the brand/label part. GAS is a thing unto itself, it's a form of collecting <opera house gasps>.

If you're attempting to capture an image a certain way you have certain gear. The 'look' and process or functionality of the camera - need - outstrips brand labels, unless you enjoy going around like this :bang: all day.

Photo forum may only focus on the narrow equipment side of things simply because everyone knows how to capture extraordinary images and they're just keeping up with changes in gear. :angel:

Roger H.'s favorite author has a great quote that cuts to the heart of it,

"There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept."

- Charlie



Juan Valdenebro said:
Good points, Charlie...

About the last one, I also thought something was wrong with the votation... I thought people preferring option 2 were not voting... But now I think in a different way: now I think the votes are meaning most people on RFF really know that the rest of the things are a lot more decisive to an image than gear or brand... Leica users included of course... The truth is no member has said "you must use Leica exclusively" nor "of course Leica images are in general better photographs than those made with any other brand", so honestly I think our Leica users are real photographers using and enjoying great cameras... Just that... I think no one here uses Leicas to impress, but for the quality of the equipment and the results...

Cheers,

Juan
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Look at the submission requisites posted by Getty. Most of their concerns are to constrain digital and 35mm work. I think such requisites are intended to exclude, for example, instamatic types.

It is an arbitrary limit they use to keep the public at bay.

Do you think that Getty would exclude a picture that was unique to an 'important' event because it was taken by a cell-phone?

I don't think they would. Perhaps I am too generous.
 
Please, define image quality, is it about the resolution and pixel, or is it about art? if the first one, then MF and LF will be always on top the lines, i did comparison with all my digital 35mm against one digital MF [H3DII-39 which is now replaced to H4D-60], my Hasselblad H beats all those 35mm digital in color sharpness and DR, so why i have to say that 35mm is better? if i will use that 35mm for something that Hasselblad can't then this is another story, i can produce art with P&S and 35mm, so this will not make those MF and LF any less as well, different systems for different style or reasons, or hourses for....,
Now if i saw an image so amazing and story-telling, or moment-capturing whatever camera it is i will not make it less if it was taken by a cheap camera, if i look for a pixel then i will have a different approach, so what is the quality meaning to someone? Many now taking amazing photos with any camera, and the one who is taking fine arts by P&S or cell phone is able to do with the most expensive camera, but it seems many who can't afford something great to use keep saying that it is not necessary to get high end gear because we can do with cheap end gear, but our hearts all saying: I WANT THAT EXPENSIVE CAMERA OR LENS, and i don't believe what the tongue saying that it is not a big deal.
 
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