user237428934
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Isn't that weird? The site looks different but all the functionality is still there and people say something like "all is gone".
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Isn't that weird? The site looks different but all the functionality is still there and people say something like "all is gone".
Murchu
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Looks good to me too, and the pricing is reasonable enough too as a subscriber. Does anyone know what the story with ads are, for example if I become a subscriber, does that mean both I and the viewers of my page get an ad-free experience
Giant Ginkgo
Established
It's all gone?? Really? 🙄
I didn't realize that groups, discussions, tags, RSS & Atom feeds, Web & Data APIs, contacts, explore and search had all been removed! It's weird, but when I go to Flickr, they all seem to still be there for me. I've never tried selling photos via Flickr, so maybe that part has disappeared overnight...
The push towards the stronger advertisement based model I'm not so keen on, at all; the gratuitous price increase to remove ads is pretty insulting and seems like a plain money grab. I'd love to have overheard the meetings discussing the pricing model changes and reasoning.
The CEO's pithy remarks definitely haven't helped her win support from either the wanna-be pro or professional community, but many of them already left a long time ago for the 'greener pastures' of SmugMug, 500px, Google+ and other services. I don't hold what she said against Flickr's programming team, and I'm quite happy to see them finally make much needed changes, after years of stasis.
I wish there was more control over the layout of my photo stream's first page, but I think the visual changes just take some time to get used to. In the long run, it probably is a superior solution than what was there before. For instance, I already find the new view to be MUCH more engaging when looking at other photographers that I am interested in, it is so much easier to get a feel for their work and to appreciate it. The old Flickr tiny preview images and paging was one of the things I always hated the most about Flickr...
Overall, the view of individual images is ten times better than before, I much more prefer the dark background and the even larger display of the photo, while comments, groups and distracting text has been pushed below the fold - making for a significantly cleaner layout. They've also massively expanded support for full screen, and slideshows. (Though I'm not big on the Ken Burns style one.)
I hated how small Flickr used to display photographs, and they've been busily addressing that over the past year. It is one of the reasons why I signed up for 500px, but the community there I've never really gotten used to, I still much prefer Flickr's groups and communal feel. I've long been mystified by the love pros have showered on Google+ as a Flickr alternative, considering the draconian censorship there and the lack of discovery...
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Sparrow
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I just went from your link to the last photo of tom's flickr ... it took almost five minutes to scroll down that new justified facebook style photo-stream to it ... it may not be gone, but it's bloody difficult to find anything
Michael Markey
Veteran
I too clicked on the link ...gone for me .
Just loading , loading.
I agree with the sentiments expressed earlier ... a disaster.
I`m willing to bet that Yahoo will rue the day it made these changes.
Just loading , loading.
I agree with the sentiments expressed earlier ... a disaster.
I`m willing to bet that Yahoo will rue the day it made these changes.
paradoxbox
Well-known
Yahoo won't rue it.
They have made a calculated decision to dump the core users of flickr. They anticipated the backlash but they're going to ignore it and wait for all of the core users to leave or adapt, then they're going to continue converting the flickr model to be a copy of tumblr - they may even merge the two services in the near future.
Flickr's dead unless by some miracle they decide to reverse the decision.
They have made a calculated decision to dump the core users of flickr. They anticipated the backlash but they're going to ignore it and wait for all of the core users to leave or adapt, then they're going to continue converting the flickr model to be a copy of tumblr - they may even merge the two services in the near future.
Flickr's dead unless by some miracle they decide to reverse the decision.
user237428934
User deletion pending
That is right. Before, you could easily jump in pages. Now you have to switch to the old style in the photostram of a person with "edit". Don't know how long they will support this.
But what exactly is the reason why you want to go directly to the last image? As a developer or product manager this is a need I didn't have on my agenda.
user237428934
User deletion pending
Just found another way. Don't scroll down with your wheel on the mouse. Just grab the scrollbar on the right with the mouse and pull down. There you instantly find some page number. Less than before, but still there.
Giant Ginkgo
Established
It took me a couple of seconds to find Tom's first photo. It's available from the "•••" button, below the "Member Since" text, try clicking on "Archives"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom_w_bn/archives/
It is organized by when it was taken, or uploaded, and has a nice photographic calendar view. Personally I think this is pretty awesome and far superior than the stupid [1 2 3 4 5 ... 345 346] UI. I keep finding cool new functions, all over the place, the more I poke around.
Perhaps if people spent more time exploring all of the new features, before opening their mouths and inserting their feet, the conversation could be more constructive...
Sparrow
Veteran
... updating their stakeholder matrix, ... dynamically ... I expect.
A brave new world eh?
user237428934
User deletion pending
Didn't know that. Nice.
cody.wms
Member
I don't get this either. What do you want to see at the bottom? Click on the next page to see more pictures? I hope no one is complaining that you can't scroll down and click to see more pictures because there are too many pictures...
You can toggle between photstream, sets, and favorites at the top of the page, and can control all the general stuff up there, too.
The biggest problem that Flickr has is that it has been static and crappy for so long anything they did would have met this same backlash.
Sparrow
Veteran
... that's a calendar, we had that before, it is nothing like the graphic display of the last version ... If one is looking for a particular photo it's useless
Michael Markey
Veteran
I fear you may be correct.
It seems that large proportion of my Flickr friends are already making plans to abandon ship.
This is the feedback that they are getting http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157633547442506/page166/
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
i'm not sure why they would care, they're buying Tumblr so if the user base shifts there they've lost nothing, but I expect, if an exodus is to occur, that people will just scatter in a lot of directions
btgc
Veteran
Calendar has been there, not a news.
Now you want to skip to either end of stream - go down page and try to press square with either 1 or last page. While page continues to load pictures, I weren't able to press page number. In fact it jumped and once I hit picture and once page somewhere in-between.
I know, it's wiser to access data by some meaningful method (date, tags and such) but I feel pokemon layout is just too slow and resource hungry so page-by-page method now is broken. It's obsolete now is page isn't a page anymore. So either remove it or make page indefinitely large (scroll down until end is reached....and back).
What would be smart - make size of pictures in streams (my, contacts, group) adjustable - want overview, go smaller, have spotted interesting batch - enlarge.
Now you want to skip to either end of stream - go down page and try to press square with either 1 or last page. While page continues to load pictures, I weren't able to press page number. In fact it jumped and once I hit picture and once page somewhere in-between.
I know, it's wiser to access data by some meaningful method (date, tags and such) but I feel pokemon layout is just too slow and resource hungry so page-by-page method now is broken. It's obsolete now is page isn't a page anymore. So either remove it or make page indefinitely large (scroll down until end is reached....and back).
What would be smart - make size of pictures in streams (my, contacts, group) adjustable - want overview, go smaller, have spotted interesting batch - enlarge.
brbo
Well-known
It's not gone, yet. But it will be gone, I'm afraid.
I think previous layout encouraged users to put text and tags to go with pictures, put them in specific groups, comment on other photos, etc. Now flickr is doing everything to hide as much of this info as possible. People won't even click on images anymore, since you get mega size full frontal assault on the first page.
Sure, I'll still be punching in my tags (I only have film cameras so no exif form me), but other users might not bother. And then the search-by-tags will not be relevant anymore, groups will be less populated and flickr community will not be the same.
You might not care about this, but many do.
Giant Ginkgo
Established
I stand corrected about the calendar, but you did say you were looking at his first posted photo, and that view gives you a far faster access to points in a stream than just a bunch of meaningless numbered pages.
I'm not quite clear what sort of search you're trying to do that isn't available now. If you're just trying to visually search for a picture, I don't think clicking one by one through hundreds of pages individually with a handful of small thumbnails is really that much slower than the new auto-loading system with the much larger and easier to see previews. I do fully agree that dial-up or slow connection users will suffer, though...
The previews are so much friendlier for visual searching, for example, my panorama photos aren't twenty pixels tall any more. There still is the [1 2 3 4 5 6] at the bottom of the page, but each page now loads 100 photos at a time. The UI also intelligently resizes to the window, so if you make the window smaller, the images get a bit smaller. Full screen Flickr browsing of contacts on my 27 inch monitor is awesome!
Otherwise, you can search a user's photo by the search field at the top, or by tag, location and the other traditional Flickr methods. For your own pics, Organize is still there, with it's tiny thumbnails at the bottom and you can switch to the old page view with "Edit."
Highway 61
Revisited
Exactly.
Just like taking all your books off the shelves for now storing them in a large supermarket bag which stays on the living-room carpet. You don't lose them, and your visitors can still have access to them, but the presentation differs a little bit.
