benlees
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Indeed, there is G1 w/ the 45 at Keh right now for less than a Hexar AF.
Of course, people like the Hexar because it is quiet...
Of course, people like the Hexar because it is quiet...
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raid
Dad Photographer
Olympus Stylus and Stylus EPIC are the two most used P&S. I do not count the Contax T2 as a P&S camera. I know that I have a small Leica P&S and a Yashica T2 that never works and an Olympus Stylus Zoom and ....
These cameras now cost less than the cost to buy fim and develop it a few times a year.
These cameras now cost less than the cost to buy fim and develop it a few times a year.
mcgrattan
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I use a Stylus Epic (mju II) and also a Ricoh R11 [which has the same f3.5 30mm wide lens as the R1]. I like both.
The R11 is a surprisingly nice little camera -- spot metering, and a decent lens.
The R11 is a surprisingly nice little camera -- spot metering, and a decent lens.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Yes the Fuji DL series are quite nice- I had the zoom for a while. Nice easy exposure compensation.
The Stylus Epic certainly has a great lens, my wife's stepmother used one of those for years and years- she shot lots and it just kept on going. Beautiful color with that lens.
The Stylus Epic certainly has a great lens, my wife's stepmother used one of those for years and years- she shot lots and it just kept on going. Beautiful color with that lens.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
If you buy a body and lens separately, it's even cheaper!
I just bought an M2, though, so I am not really in the market. But next time I go on a trip, I think I'll give that a try.
Migracer
"MigRacer&amp ;qu ot; AKA Miguel
A Closet Point and Shooter
A Closet Point and Shooter
In February 2008 I parked my digital Cameras and went back to film, for the most part. While at an assignment for Grassroots Motorsports magazine I took my old Pentax Spotmatic and my Nikon AF 300. The pictures from the Nikon where the ones used by the magazine, Ford, Miller Motor Sports and several race teams. I have since bought a Canon 60 Zoom and a Pentax IQ 200 zoom. I am trying to lighten the load of equipment I Travel with. Here are some examples of my Point and shoot stuff. I have also revived my old range finders.
A Closet Point and Shooter
In February 2008 I parked my digital Cameras and went back to film, for the most part. While at an assignment for Grassroots Motorsports magazine I took my old Pentax Spotmatic and my Nikon AF 300. The pictures from the Nikon where the ones used by the magazine, Ford, Miller Motor Sports and several race teams. I have since bought a Canon 60 Zoom and a Pentax IQ 200 zoom. I am trying to lighten the load of equipment I Travel with. Here are some examples of my Point and shoot stuff. I have also revived my old range finders.
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AzzA
Established
Some cool little cameras in this thread that i must try out some time.
I have a couple Oly Epics and a few other newer p&s cameras.
The other day though i bought an Olympus Pen EF for a few dollars. Its one of my favourite cameras now. Truely point and shoot, no batteries needed also (unless you want to sue the flash)
Here are some shots from the first roll i took with it
Oh, and here is the camera in question
I have a couple Oly Epics and a few other newer p&s cameras.
The other day though i bought an Olympus Pen EF for a few dollars. Its one of my favourite cameras now. Truely point and shoot, no batteries needed also (unless you want to sue the flash)
Here are some shots from the first roll i took with it
Oh, and here is the camera in question
amateriat
We're all light!
Miguel: good stuff...and published, too!
AzzA: That's one interesting Olympus Pen. Looks like fun, and decently built. Wouldn't mind seeing results from its use.
- Barrett
AzzA: That's one interesting Olympus Pen. Looks like fun, and decently built. Wouldn't mind seeing results from its use.
- Barrett
kuzano
Veteran
Pink Barbie Polaroid, simple and fast as digital
Pink Barbie Polaroid, simple and fast as digital
Also an eyecatching camera in a crowd. I loaned it to a friends daughter who went to Africa with it, and it did not come back. She was doing volunteer work in an orphanage and it gave the young people such a wonderful look at what America is all about, that she had to leave it behind for the orphanage. Somehow, when she put it in her baggage, I knew I would not see it again.
It was a primary shooter for me for quite some time. Closest you can get to a digital point and shoot in parts of the third world.
New pocket camera is a Konica Lexio 70, with a 28-70 Zoom and aperture 3.4-7.9. Pics are good. DX coding, sliding cover over lens, small flash, diopter on the VF. Size quite like an Oly XA, but strictly P&S
Pink Barbie Polaroid, simple and fast as digital
Also an eyecatching camera in a crowd. I loaned it to a friends daughter who went to Africa with it, and it did not come back. She was doing volunteer work in an orphanage and it gave the young people such a wonderful look at what America is all about, that she had to leave it behind for the orphanage. Somehow, when she put it in her baggage, I knew I would not see it again.
It was a primary shooter for me for quite some time. Closest you can get to a digital point and shoot in parts of the third world.
New pocket camera is a Konica Lexio 70, with a 28-70 Zoom and aperture 3.4-7.9. Pics are good. DX coding, sliding cover over lens, small flash, diopter on the VF. Size quite like an Oly XA, but strictly P&S
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Andrew Sowerby
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I've got more photos on Flickr taken with my Olympus Stylus Epic than any other camera: Check 'em out.
I don't use that camera nearly as much as I used to, but here are a couple of recent pics:
I don't use that camera nearly as much as I used to, but here are a couple of recent pics:
dwaoka
emmigrant
Ricoh GR1 - stunning lens, made of metal and it fits in your shirt pocket!!
Want to sell it though.
Peter.
Want to sell it though.
Peter.
raid
Dad Photographer
After using P&S cameras for many years as additions to RF and SLR "full sized" cameras, I finally reached the conclusion that no matter how careful I use [excellent] P&S cameras, the resulting images don't come even close to what I can obtain with lenses such as Summicron with my Leica/Canon or a Zeiss Sonnar pre-war 5cm with a Contax. I feel that it is a waste of money to use P&S cameras when you can use something better.
JPSuisse
Well-known
Hi there,
I don't think I understand what a PandS camera is. I thought it was a camera that the only thing you could do was point and push the button actuating the shutter. Adjusting aperture, etc. was not part of the game, or?
Yes. I found that the Disposal Film Cameras I used from yore as a tourist or for fun produced surprising good results when scanned. In fact, the color quality seems better than many digital cameras today.
JP
I don't think I understand what a PandS camera is. I thought it was a camera that the only thing you could do was point and push the button actuating the shutter. Adjusting aperture, etc. was not part of the game, or?
Yes. I found that the Disposal Film Cameras I used from yore as a tourist or for fun produced surprising good results when scanned. In fact, the color quality seems better than many digital cameras today.
JP
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Have you tried the Contax T2? I was quite shocked at what that little lens can deliver, and I shoot this camera quite a bit now.
Migracer
"MigRacer&amp ;qu ot; AKA Miguel
As you know the idea of us using a point and shoot is; 1. fast 2. compact 3. unobtrusive 4. quiet 5. less intimidating.
People in general leave their guard down when they see a small camera, I mean how good of a picture can you get?
The last of the point and shoot from the major manufacturers share the same technology as their slr brothers. These small Zooms have 6 to 11 elements in various groups. They take very sharp pictures see. the included 100 percent crop of the Tbird engine. This was the first picture I took with the Canon Sure Shot Zoom 60, an ebay purchase of $15.00 with shipping.
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Rico
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I have two P&S in heavy rotation these days: Contax T3 (film), and Panasonic FX150 (digital). These are different in every way except for their shirt-pocket size, and that is precisely why I use them. Even my RFs (Leica M4, Contax T) cannot compete for sheer portability. As always, one must weigh the tradeoffs.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have a T2, but somehow I did not think of it as a P&S camera. Maybe it is!
bkrystad
Established
fun with a Yashica T3D ...
fun with a Yashica T3D ...
... in no small part due to the CZ 35mm f/2.8 T* lens. I gave it to my daughter to use on our trip to southern California this summer, sent a roll to A&I, and got these back.
First is a rest stop north of Sacramento with my wife taking a digital photo of my youngest daughter using a Pentax P&S by my oldest daughter using the T3D. Second is at Point Lobos south of Carmel.
These are just scans of 4x6 prints, so they leave something to be desired. But for a rummage sale buy, the camera doesn't. I'd carry this for quick and sharp candids anywhere.
fun with a Yashica T3D ...
... in no small part due to the CZ 35mm f/2.8 T* lens. I gave it to my daughter to use on our trip to southern California this summer, sent a roll to A&I, and got these back.
First is a rest stop north of Sacramento with my wife taking a digital photo of my youngest daughter using a Pentax P&S by my oldest daughter using the T3D. Second is at Point Lobos south of Carmel.
These are just scans of 4x6 prints, so they leave something to be desired. But for a rummage sale buy, the camera doesn't. I'd carry this for quick and sharp candids anywhere.
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camera.bear
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When I posed this question, I had a pretty ridgid definition of what a point-and-shoot camera was. No adjustments, auto focus and exposure. However, it seems that a lot of the photographers here have decided that "adjust the settings once and then shoot away" qualifies as point-and-shoot as well. There is definitely a complete spectrum of compact cameras from fully automatic, non-adujtables with simpler glass; To partially automatic and adjustable; To cameras that are mostly or fully adjustable, i.e. manual with sophisticate lens designs.
The more adjustable cameras are clearly in a pay to play strata, but there are certainly many capable cameras available within the reach of all budgets. From what I have seen here, one's personal definition of point-and-shoot depends mostly on shooting style and budget and not on the label that was attached to the early auto compact 35mm cameras.
And since my personal definition has expanded, I've decided to try a semi-adjustable Canon Sure Shot Classic 120. It should be here in a few days.
Happy Pointing and Shooting
Migracer
"MigRacer&amp ;qu ot; AKA Miguel
Point and shoot defenition expanded
Point and shoot defenition expanded
I too have concluded that the Canon Sure Shot Classic 120 is the best compromise (at least for now) for a point and shoot and have one on the way too. Preset cameras where you choose your f stop and shutter speed and pre-focus based on distance and depth of field are point and shoot cameras. My personal cut off for that definition is Scale fucus no visual focusing device, just a view finder. I shot my 1970 high school year book candid photos using a Penn EE shooting on Tri X film, compact and quiet! I also bought but have yet to use a Kodak Pony! I guess I have been retrogressing to simpler cameras to try and get candid people pictures. I am also using slower films, negative ASA 100/200 and slide 64.
Check out my Picasa photo album for my Kodak 35 scale focus camera pictures http://picasaweb.google.com/NASAevents/1939Kodak35Test#5233201168527426562
Point and shoot defenition expanded
I too have concluded that the Canon Sure Shot Classic 120 is the best compromise (at least for now) for a point and shoot and have one on the way too. Preset cameras where you choose your f stop and shutter speed and pre-focus based on distance and depth of field are point and shoot cameras. My personal cut off for that definition is Scale fucus no visual focusing device, just a view finder. I shot my 1970 high school year book candid photos using a Penn EE shooting on Tri X film, compact and quiet! I also bought but have yet to use a Kodak Pony! I guess I have been retrogressing to simpler cameras to try and get candid people pictures. I am also using slower films, negative ASA 100/200 and slide 64.
Check out my Picasa photo album for my Kodak 35 scale focus camera pictures http://picasaweb.google.com/NASAevents/1939Kodak35Test#5233201168527426562