raid
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I sold my Black Natura. The lens is awesome. There is hardly any distortion.
best compact rf with fast lens
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I sold my Black Natura. The lens is awesome. There is hardly any distortion.
johnastovall
Light Hunter - RIP 2010
Leica IIIG with Canon 50/1.2.
Yvon
Established
no rollei 35??? you must be kidding me...
btgc
Veteran
Reading on CC's max speed, I'll guess if it is dictated by construction of aperture?
NickTrop
Veteran
I thinks so. The Hexar AF - built 20 years after the "CC" and much more automated, had a similarly spec'd lens 35/2 (v the CC 35/1.8) and also had only a 2 blade leaf shutter and a top shutter speed of 1/250. Neither camera - especially the Hexar, was "low end". Wouldn't seem to be a cost-cutting measure. My guess is there is some physical limitation imposed by this lens spec (fast/wide) on shutter speed and shutter design with a leaf shutter. Kinda interesting. Would like to know if these assumptions are true (would seem to be) and why...
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Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Interesting question. Given that shutters for LF lenses (though none as fast as f2,) are physically much larger and have speeds up 1/500, I don't think that's it. The AF is motor driven but the CC is not, so I don't think shot-to-shot performance is it either.
NickTrop
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Hi Trius : ) It is curious, though. Why the top shutter of 1/250 and 2-blade shutter construction on both cameras made decades apart? Had to be some physical/engineering consideration, and a big one, since the Konica engineers couldn't overcome it 20 years after the fact. Why limit a higher-end RF like the Hexar AF to 1/250th top shutter speed? Why the 2-blade aperture?
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sircarl
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I voted for the Canon QL17 when this poll first came out, but I later sold mine and got a Yashica GX. It's miles ahead of the Canon in image quality, and a joy to use. This from a trip to Palermo last year:
http://sircarl.smugmug.com/photos/387888309_y6Ug6-XL.jpg
http://sircarl.smugmug.com/photos/387888309_y6Ug6-XL.jpg
NickTrop
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Tomioka Optical, then Yashica-owned, are much underrated overall... along with Konica and Pentax. Not to slight the others... They just cranked out great lenses and left the "mystique building" efforts to others (cough... Leica, cough... Nikon). Camera manufactures competeted in a "monopolistiIC competition" setting if ever there was one...
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Monopolistic competition is a common market structure where many competing producers sell products that are differentiated from one another products (ie. the products are substitutes, but are not exactly alike)...
Monopolistically competitive markets have the following characteristics:
There are many producers and many consumers in a given market, and no business has total control over the market price.
Consumers perceive that there are non-price differences among the competitors' products.
There are few barriers to entry and exit[2].
Producers have a degree of control over price.
Another concern of critics of monopolistic competition is that it fosters advertising and the creation of brand names. Critics argue that advertising induces customers into spending more on products because of the name associated with them rather than because of rational factors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopolistic_competition
The above is the reason why I never buy and will never buy expensive cameras
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DennisPT
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Leica CL + Canon 50/1.2.
btgc
Veteran
I'm not familiar with Hexar, though this morning Konica Auto S3 came to mind - well, it's not exactly wide, though close - 38/1.8 and has....I can't find direct statement how many diaphragm blades it has, though I'm pretty sure they are five.
Interesting, how design compares to CC and Hexar lens to allow use of more blades (please, confirm or decline this, anyone). My speculation is that KAS3 is shutter priority only, so automatic aperture selection could be more compact than manual aperture selection. Though GN system also sets aperture, so I'm not dead sure if this is the reason. Do really those extra 3mm make difference ? 🙂
PMCC
Late adopter.
Another vote for the Yashica 35 GX. Great 6 element 40/1.7 lens, contrasty VF with parallax correction, 1/500 top speed, and smaller and lighter than most on the list. Can fit in the pocket of your windbreaker without wrecking the jacket. I think the black version is especially sharp looking. Don't foresee parting with mine.
Mablo
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Oly RD lens is really really sharp.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3646483655_8ee9d20f3a_b.jpg
My Electro 35 G comes close but I find it a little too bulky sometimes. It is a great camera for those late evening photos on a tripod though.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3317/3646483655_8ee9d20f3a_b.jpg
My Electro 35 G comes close but I find it a little too bulky sometimes. It is a great camera for those late evening photos on a tripod though.
johnastovall
Light Hunter - RIP 2010
None of the above, a Leica IIIG with the Canon 50/1.2.
arthur sadowsky
Established
krohmie
Photoaddict
raid
Dad Photographer
I recently bought a Lynx 14E and I had it CLA'd.
Now I need to try it out.
Now I need to try it out.
TXForester
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If you have the Olympus 35RD, then you might as well put in the 35RC since it adds manual control.
Brian Legge
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The 35RD and 35SP both can be used in manual of automatic. The 35DC is automatic only.
Vics
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Or even with the 40 Summicron!
