BREXIT: UK members might want to consider GAS before the June 23 referendum

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And, of course, Mr Johnson isn't. 🙄


Austerity and public service cuts that have been visited upon us, with huge enthusiasm, by the UK (Tory) government, NOT by the EU.


Speak for yourself. Right now, it's the English that I don't like - and I'm English. 😡
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Cheers,

R.
 
I just have to say that I still dearly love all my UK friends. ...and I know some voted either way. I simply tell myself, its their country, not mine (I'm in US). So now, weird things are afoot here too 🙂

I keep telling my 19-yr old son, "you are so lucky to live in interesting times". And its so true.
 
I just have to say that I still dearly love all my UK friends. ...and I know some voted either way. I simply tell myself, its their country, not mine (I'm in US). So now, weird things are afoot here too 🙂

I keep telling my 19-yr old son, "you are so lucky to live in interesting times". And its so true.

I'm thinking the 1990s and new millennium were an era rife with growth and opportunities in unity, well-being and so on, but I refuse to tell my 21-yr old and 15-yr old that. They have to feel the best is yet to come, right?

My defining moment in life was the fall of the Berlin Wall and that era has come to and end this last year with the erection of walls throughout the EU and possibly between the US and Mexico.

I'm happy for those that look forward to the proud 'new UK' and 'new US', but I find it hard not to feel down.
 
Come friendly bombs and rain on Slough, it isn't fit for humans now.

I find it hard to grasp what has happened. A general drift to the right? Does this mean Trump will be confirmed President? Humph.
 
For anyone who thinks that such a small margin and less than 50% of the electorate is insufficient to make such a momentous decision, there is a petition on https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open calling for a second referendum to ensure a suitable majority.

Mike

Well, if I count it then not even 4 million out of 64 million have decided what to do with the other 60 million... Somehow in other, far less important part of our lives, such a thing wouldn't be even considered valid if less than 2/3-th of the "electorate" had voted. I mean simple things like a sports club committee.

But if I look at the situation inside the uk itself, then I fear it will be a long time before the dust inside has settled. A _very_ long time maybe.
 
I'm thinking the 1990s and new millennium were an era rife with growth and opportunities in unity, well-being and so on, but I refuse to tell my 21-yr old and 15-yr old that. They have to feel the best is yet to come, right?

My defining moment in life was the fall of the Berlin Wall and that era has come to and end this last year with the erection of walls throughout the EU and possibly between the US and Mexico.

I'm happy for those that look forward to the proud 'new UK' and 'new US', but I find it hard not to feel down.

Tonight I feel bereft and ashamed to be seen as english. I am sorry for what we and the world has lost - the hope that we could build a better world together.
 
There you go then. you won't be winning any hearts and minds in the UK. For your information I am Scottish born and bred.

Don't you think it is ironic that the SNP want out of a political union where they can exercise a significant amount of self determination to join one that would allow them much less?

I don't care about winning hearts and minds in the UK, what I care is to find a good paid job in Euroland possibly in a country with a NHS that really works so I don't have to worry to die if I have a heart failure or things like that.

For anyone who thinks that such a small margin and less than 50% of the electorate is insufficient to make such a momentous decision, there is a petition on https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open calling for a second referendum to ensure a suitable majority.

Mike

Noble but desperate attempt to pick up the pieces, unfortunately people believe what they want.
 
A whole lot of younger people will lose their freedom of movement to work. My son's apartment mate in Paris is British and has been working their for years. His current work isn't threatened, and he could take French citizenship if he so desired.

But whatever of his money and investments that reside in the UK are taking a serious bath, and there is no certainty of when (or if) the value will be recouped.

I understand not all Brits were happy with the economy and what they perceived to be grievances with "Brussels", but they made a stupid choice. The poorest areas, which voted leave, are deeply dependent on exports to Europe.

And then there's Frump, who landed in Scotland and rejoiced that they had "taken back their country." Ummm, they voted REMAIN, you dolt.

And admitted he had no idea who Boris Johnson is. What a tool.

</rant off>
 
I understand not all Brits were happy with the economy and what they perceived to be grievances with "Brussels", but they made a stupid choice.

You're right. The British people been fed an unrelenting diet of poison about the EU by our media for the past 20-30 years, and some of it (probably a LOT of it) was bound to get through - especially to those who don't think critically about what they're hearing.

And then there's Frump, who landed in Scotland and rejoiced that they had "taken back their country." Ummm, they voted REMAIN, you dolt.

And admitted he had no idea who Boris Johnson is. What a tool.

I'm saying nothing. And I don't think I need to say anything. 🙁
 
You're right. The British people been fed an unrelenting diet of poison about the EU by our media for the past 20-30 years, and some of it (probably a LOT of it) was bound to get through - especially to those who don't think critically about what they're hearing.

I especially like the story that the EU pays UK companies to outsource plants and jobs OUTSIDE the EU.

That joke is so bad nobody with brains could believe but if the daily mirror, the sun and the telegraph repeat it they say "it's on ALL the newspapers".

I mean the British have been brainwashed to make them believe anything, I could just see the truth because I read newspapers in other languages.

And admitted he had no idea who Boris Johnson is. What a tool.

</rant off>

Really? I think Boris and Donald are two of a kind. Three if you also consider Berlusconi.
 
I am impressed by the breadth and wisdom I am reading here on RFF, from both sides. I am concerned about some of the consequences of BREXIT, particularly the clear division within the UK. But I can't help thinking that with Larry the cat at 10 Downing cosying up to Obama recently, the future for Britain and the rest of the world is likely to be OK. The ties between Britain and the rest of Europe and the world cannot be dissolved entirely even if they tried. I am still going ahead with renewing my British passport.
 
One day after the Brexit vote with the Pound Sterling plummeting, gear prices should increase soon for our British friends. If your income is in British pounds, I fear that your standard of living will decline rapidly. Britain has always been a great trading nation. Importation of goods (including most of the food consumed in Britain) will now be much more expensive. I don't see how our British friends can escape these problems at this point.
 
Comment on the financial implications from Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (UK Telegraph financial writer) here - short read: the sky has not fallen in; this is not a Lehmann moment. AEP is normally a bit of a doomsayer so this view is encouraging.
 
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