BREXIT: UK members might want to consider GAS before the June 23 referendum

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andrewmore said:
Given that the polls indicate a close run thing and that there are only two choices: remain or leave, has anyone thought what would happen if the result was exactly equal? Does someone get to toss a coin to finally decide? This seems to be a weakness with a referendum…

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Andrew More
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Sadly I've seen calls for violence from both sides if it doesn't go their way.

Speaking as someone who had a little ranty moment earlier in this thread, I dont think this has brought out the best in anyone.
 
I think EU was doomed the day it started. They tried to build something similar to the US model but there are big variations in European culture and way of life to make a one fit all solution. I have a friend who is a farmer in Lithuania who connot comply with EU regulations to grow his crops. His family has been doing it for generations and they know how to raise their crops their own way. But EU doesn't care about this those regulations are for all if one wants to trade in EU. His business simply cannot compete with Spanish or Italian conterparts because obviously the climate and soil. I don't even want to talk about Migration crissis that Europe is facing. I think the EU model has to be re-enginnered from bottom up o.w. It's just the matter of time when things will fall apart...

So, where can I can a buy a nice MP in UK when the pound goes done.
Want to start pre-ordering to be the first in line 🙂
 
Roger Hicks said:
Details?

Or is this a generic whinge?

As a Québecois you have a firm grasp on what's happening several thousand miles away?

Cheers,

R.
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Yes, that would be interesting to hear. I am from Lithuania (not a farmer, though). I have heard some complaints about the level of subsidies, but not about regulations (how and what and etc). New type farmers (bigger ones) have been doing quite OK. EU actually helped a lot in the agro sector, even if people complain (subsidies, help with infrastructure). Efficiency has incrased enormously. If there was a lack of flexibility, it was from local regulators (ministry of agriculture).
 
sojournerphoto said:
And Yorkshire - it already has a national newspaper
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Ah. But they bist furriners.

Surprisingly few people seem to understand the theory and practice of Balkanization. In my home village of St. Denys we were deeply suspicious of the next village along (Nanpean), and Roche was quite beyond the pale. The same is true of the village I live in now: the relationship between Moncontour and Martaizé is distinctly uneasy. Or as they say (or used to say) in Gozo, "A dog and a Maltese: never allow either in your house."

Cheers,

R.
 
So, just to return to the original question. The pound is right now at its 30-year lowest. Yet I am not in the mood for buying anything. Not for some time anyway. Really sorry about the way this is going.

Best wishes to all in the UK. I do hope you find a way to mend the rifts quickly.

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Pound at 1.33, a 15-year low. This is a good time to shop for British goods.

But in seriousness, this move is a terrible blow to the EU economy. The UK won't fully recover from the plunge and the lost of commercial activity for years to come.
 
UK won't suffer if they leave the EU. They will prosper with far less regulations and daily taxing from the unelected EU commissioners. Temporary hit while things adjust, and then the UK will be even more prosperous than before.

Look at Iceland at the time of its financial crisis, to now. Iceland continues to prosper. They never needed to be part of the EU.

Switzerland also formally withdrew its application to join the EU.

It's time that Europeans took their own national identities back, than trying to keep pretending that they are homogeneous "Europeans".
 
Those EU politicians are a part of their elected politicians, the commisioners are proposed by the elected parliament and the countries. I think the UK should first think about their queen and the house of lords, neither of them are elected and either of them do have real power.

Both Norway and Switserland follow already more of the EU laws and regulations than the UK and as it is now they do not even have a say in the creation of those. Once the money from the EU to the UK dries up and they find themselves out of the market or having to follow just as before without a voice in it then they will realise what happened this day.
 
Spanik said:
Those EU politicians are a part of their elected politicians, the commisioners are proposed by the elected parliament and the countries. I think the UK should first think about their queen and the house of lords, neither of them are elected and either of them do have real power.

Both Norway and Switserland follow already more of the EU laws and regulations than the UK and as it is now they do not even have a say in the creation of those. Once the money from the EU to the UK dries up and they find themselves out of the market or having to follow just as before without a voice in it then they will realise what happened this day.
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Some o db us already realise.

I have nothing more to say.
 
Good luck to our UK members! I believe Southampton was the traditional departure point for the Antipodes, but now it's more likely to be Heathrow or Gatwick 🙂
 
Well, as the old saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

If you want to access the EU's 20-country+ market, you'll need to play by the EU's (occasionally asinine) rulebook. And despite what people might say and what's going on in Greece and Italy the EU has been tremendously beneficial to its members.
 
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