BREXIT: UK members might want to consider GAS before the June 23 referendum

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Does this not mean that a weakened £ will make exports cheaper ? Surely firms like Ilford will benefit from this as their products become effectively cheaper on the world market ?
 
Robert Lai said:
UK won't suffer if they leave the EU. They will prosper with far less regulations and daily taxing from the unelected EU commissioners. Temporary hit while things adjust, and then the UK will be even more prosperous than before.

Look at Iceland at the time of its financial crisis, to now. Iceland continues to prosper. They never needed to be part of the EU.

Switzerland also formally withdrew its application to join the EU.

It's time that Europeans took their own national identities back, than trying to keep pretending that they are homogeneous "Europeans".
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As to Switzerland: opting out is not the same as not opting in. Switzerland has never been a member. Two completely different places. If anyone in England thought they could simply adopt the Swiss model (of adopting the majority of EU laws through bilateral agreements) and be done with it is dilusional.
 
John Bragg said:
Does this not mean that a weakened £ will make exports cheaper ? Surely firms like Ilford will benefit from this as their products become effectively cheaper on the world market ?
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Correct, UK exporters will benefit from a lower GBP. However when the UK is no longer a member of the EU, they will have to comply with regulations and tariffs that apply to non-members, for any EU trade. Whether the drop in the GBP offsets any additional tariffs I don't know.

For non EU countries, hopefully it will mean the importer savings on UK-exported Ilford products will be passed on to consumers. That would be great for film!
 
lynnb said:
Correct, UK exporters will benefit from a lower GBP.
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For the moment, to the disadvantage of their British workers (whose wages have proportionally devalued) - but that can't even last for the exit period, or we'd see a emigration wave from Britain while the borders are still open. Assuming everything readjusts to "traditional values" (both the UK and EU ought to have a very strong interest in that), trade from or to Britain ought to settle some 10-20% more expensive than today (with the difference vanishing in taxes rather than benefiting sellers or buyers), as it used to be in pre common market/common VAT days. So, no, in the long run Ilford will sell less and we'll have to pay more for it.
 
One should not allow foreign entities control your country. United Nations over USA. This was tried to get around second amendment. EU over GB.

They can still allow free travel if they wish. They can make trade deals. But you simply can not allow free and open borders to people who wish to come and live in your country and then want you to change it to suit their culture.
 
Will we see a return of the 'ten pound pom' in Oz as waves of brits make an exit and head to our fair shores? 😀
 
"But you simply can not allow free and open borders to people who wish to come and live in your country and then want you to change it to suit their culture." In fact, most unification in human history has been done by force, including that of the US. But as long as we pretend we can solve world's problems through lack of integration, we will just remain a bunch of lizards, as if our frontal lobes were there only for decorative purposes. Get ready for another campaign appeasing your limbic system, Mr Trump is already working on how to cause you to make a knee jerk decision, short circuiting your gray matter.
 
Robert Lai said:
UK won't suffer if they leave the EU. They will prosper with far less regulations and daily taxing from the unelected EU commissioners. Temporary hit while things adjust, and then the UK will be even more prosperous than before.

Look at Iceland at the time of its financial crisis, to now. Iceland continues to prosper. They never needed to be part of the EU.

Switzerland also formally withdrew its application to join the EU.

It's time that Europeans took their own national identities back, than trying to keep pretending that they are homogeneous "Europeans".
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That's an example of the blatant lies the Leave campaign was able to sell to most British: Switzerland NEVER formally withdrew that application that was put on hold since...well 1992.

And they joined the Schengen area after a referendum, so they are in the EU more than Cameron's Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland–European_Union_relations

arseniii said:
I think EU was doomed the day it started. They tried to build something similar to the US model but there are big variations in European culture and way of life to make a one fit all solution. I have a friend who is a farmer in Lithuania who connot comply with EU regulations to grow his crops. His family has been doing it for generations and they know how to raise their crops their own way. But EU doesn't care about this those regulations are for all if one wants to trade in EU. His business simply cannot compete with Spanish or Italian conterparts because obviously the climate and soil. I don't even want to talk about Migration crissis that Europe is facing. I think the EU model has to be re-enginnered from bottom up o.w. It's just the matter of time when things will fall apart...
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This sounds another Brexit BS lie to me...a Canadian who knows a Lithuanian farmer who can't grow his crops because of the EU, almost a joke.

Nevertheless people believe what they want, on my side I have no problem saying I started to a job search in Euroland.

fireblade said:
Sweden and Italy are next?
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Sweden I don't know, but if Italy gets out of the EU and in particular of the Euro they will be bankrupted in the time of one night: as their pubblic debt is in euros, as soon as they switch to lire they "new" old currency will be depreciated of at least 30%, so the debt will automatically increase accordingly, it's not sustainable now and if it becomes 30% it will mean technical default, like Argentina in 2001.

That's the reason why Tsipras didn't try to go back to dracma...rightfully.
 
John Bragg said:
Does this not mean that a weakened £ will make exports cheaper ? Surely firms like Ilford will benefit from this as their products become effectively cheaper on the world market ?
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Perhaps, if there were some silver mines in the UK. 🙂 It could well be that the pincer movement of higher expenditure on silver and various other imported things that is needed for production and the lower value of the GBP instead, together with lower demand, in the long run kills it off.
 
John Bragg said:
Does this not mean that a weakened £ will make exports cheaper ? Surely firms like Ilford will benefit from this as their products become effectively cheaper on the world market ?
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This would work if Britain had a significant export industry. At the moment, Britain imports far more than it exports, so the immediate effect will be to push up the costs of everything from food to petrol.

This is a profoundly saddening result and it will not change anything. For the UK to keep anything like its current trade arrangements with Europe it will need to agree to the very things the leave campaign said will stop - payments to the EU and free movement of people.

I predict that whatever is negotiated that in two years time, when the (likely dis-) United Kingdom has left Europe, its politicians will still be blaming Europe for the problems at home and that nothing fundamentally will have changed - other than the transition from one undemocratically appointed old Etonian prime minister to another.
 
Good morning to everyone. Now, coming back to the point of the thread, I would advise everyone to hurry up with their GAS-driven purchases from UK sellers. Would be nice for us if you buy as much of old stuff as you may afford providing us with foregin currency until we will have rebulit the manufacturing. Just leave me one periflex, will you?

Now, I wish to every happy expat to the Continent to conitinue enjoying the harmonius and prosperous Union. Please do not bother about us, knuckle-draggers.
 
Seriously ... chill! The balance will be restored at some point ... you lot have been through some pretty incredible events over the years and have always pulled through ... WWll comes to mind.
 
Keith said:
Seriously ... chill! The balance will be restored at some point ... you lot have been through some pretty incredible events over the years and have always pulled through ... WWll comes to mind.
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Problem is the majority think that we are still the same world force that existed then... unfortunately sadly mistaken.
 
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