Call me middle class

[kshapero]

If the Leica M9 is the full frame digital for rich folks, then is the Nikon D700 the full frame digital for middle class folks?

 

[user237428934]

If the Leica M9 is the full frame digital for rich folks, then is the Nikon D700 the full frame digital for middle class folks?

No. Canon 5D Mk I is full frame for middle class because middle class today has only money for old used stuff.

 

[George9]

Don't worry about your social position Akiva.

Try working on your composition.😉

 

[kshapero]

Don't worry about your social position Akiva.

Try working on your composition.😉

LOL, yes my composition is still woefully lower class.😀

 

[kshapero]

No. Canon 5D Mk I is full frame for middle class because middle class today has only money for old used stuff.

True but I think a D700 with a bunch of old nikkor AI(s) lenses is pretty middle class.

 

[Roger Hicks]

You want to be called middle class? OK: You're middle class.

The D700 (or some other DSLR) is the full frame digi for DSLR users.

The M9 is the camera for full-frame RF users.

Class is a lot more than income. Among other things it includes intelligence, education, aspirations...

Cheers,

R.

 

[kshapero]

You want to be called middle class? OK: You're middle class.

The D700 (or some other DSLR) is the full frame digi for DSLR users.

The M9 is the camera for full-frame RF users.

Class is a lot more than income. Among other things it includes intelligence, education, aspirations...

Cheers,

R.

Although I am mostly deficient in the above I was just having a little fun between 2 well known full frame digital rigs: one costing $2300 and the other $7000.

 

[brainwood]

I'm with Roger on this one. Enjoy your 'photography' - ie taking pictures not the imagined social status of the camera system you own. I know it maybe heresey to say amoungst the GAS suffers amoungst us ( myself included) but its just a tool for the job.

Sure have fun using your choosen device but the creation of images that float our own creative boats must be our ultimate goal...


Edit

I was just having a little fun

point taken - sorry too much beer

 

[ferider]

Class is a lot more than income. Among other things it includes intelligence, education, aspirations...

And I thought we got rid of this a century ago. How Nouveaux 🙂

 

[mfogiel]

There are only two classes: the man in the street and Middle Class, which is the same man, but in a Rolls Royce. Then, there is the Jet Set. In photogtraphy, I think the man in the street uses a cellphone, Middle Class uses Leica M9, the Jet Set uses photographers.

 

[ItsReallyDarren]

Which part of the world are we calling middle class? I think the middle class category in the US (some other countries too) might be a little skewed.

But yes I think the D700 is a great bang for the buck when it comes to full frame digital.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

There is little relationship between the objects that one purchases in these kinds of price range and working class. I suspect that most users of Leica M9's do not qualify as "Rich". They are more likely to be more serious about their photography equipment.

Besides, a Rich Person would just buy their own photolab and buy an original Leica MP with a large supply of Kodachrome.

 

[kshapero]

There is little relationship between the objects that one purchases in these kinds of price range and working class. I suspect that most users of Leica M9's do not qualify as "Rich". They are more likely to be more serious about their photography equipment.

Besides, a Rich Person would just buy their own photolab and buy an original Leica MP with a large supply of Kodachrome.

And a little lab rat to do the developing.😱

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Ahhh, "If I were a Rich Man la, da, di, da"

 

[Chriscrawfordphoto]

There is little relationship between the objects that one purchases in these kinds of price range and working class. I suspect that most users of Leica M9's do not qualify as "Rich". They are more likely to be more serious about their photography equipment.

Besides, a Rich Person would just buy their own photolab and buy an original Leica MP with a large supply of Kodachrome.

Not so. Michael Reichmann is rich and he owns a ton of very high end digital gear, including one of those hasselblad's with the 50 or 60mp digital back that costs more than 80% of Americans earn in a year. He is also very serious about his photography, and it shows in his work, but he couldn't own that gear if he weren't rich.

 

[Thardy]

Which part of the world are we calling middle class? I think the middle class category in the US (some other countries too) might be a little skewed.

But yes I think the D700 is a great bang for the buck when it comes to full frame digital.

In the US we're all middle class. 🙂

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Not so. Michael Reichmann is rich and he owns a ton of very high end digital gear, including one of those hasselblad's with the 50 or 60mp digital back that costs more than 80% of Americans earn in a year. He is also very serious about his photography, and it shows in his work, but he couldn't own that gear if he weren't rich.

I had a Digital Sensor that cost One MILLION Dollars. I'm middle class. Was middle class cause I got paid to develop the software for it. I still got to use it. Sometimes the right job can set you up in expensive gear.

 

[Mcary]

There is little relationship between the objects that one purchases in these kinds of price range and working class. I suspect that most users of Leica M9's do not qualify as "Rich". They are more likely to be more serious about their photography equipment.

You know how to tell the difference between someone who is kind of serious and some who is really serious about their photography equipment?

The former drives a 20K vehicle and has 1-3K worth of camera gear, the latter drive a 1-3K vehicle and has 20K worth of camera gear 🙂

 

[kshapero]

In the US we're all middle class. 🙂

Tell that to Duke Ellington or Elvis "the King" Presley.😕

 

[Roger Hicks]

There is little relationship between the objects that one purchases in these kinds of price range and working class. I suspect that most users of Leica M9's do not qualify as "Rich". They are more likely to be more serious about their photography equipment.

You know how to tell the difference between someone who is kind of serious and some who is really serious about their photography equipment?

The former drives a 20K vehicle and has 1-3K worth of camera gear, the latter drive a 1-3K vehicle and has 20K worth of camera gear 🙂

Dear Mike,

Good definition.

About 30-35 years ago I went to a camera club in Kingswood, just outside Bristol. One of the members drooled over my camera outfit and said, "I wish I could afford that."

At the end of the evening he drove away in a brand-new Ford and I drove away in a Rover 105 that was well into its 'teens; maybe even pushing 20. Mind you, it was still a better car than the Ford.

Cheers,

R.