Canoscan 9000f users?

[FredtheLlama]

Hi folks,

I've had a Canoscan 9000f for a few years now and it works great with 35mm.

My problem is with 120. The scanning mask is useless and impossible to get flat/flush without it moving around.

What are the alternatives? Could I just get two pieces of glass cut to size?

 

[WJJ3]

I was using that scanner for a couple years, primarily for 120 size film, and I concur; the stock film carrier sucks...

What I did was installed strands of thread at locations between the frames, which would support the film and hold it flat(er)...You have to drill tiny holes at the edges on both sides of the carrier and run thread through them so that it spans the width of the carrier just between the frames. It was easy enough to do and worked good enough for me!

 

[FredtheLlama]

I was using that scanner for a couple years, primarily for 120 size film, and I concur; the stock film carrier sucks...

What I did was installed strands of thread at locations between the frames, which would support the film and hold it flat(er)...You have to drill tiny holes at the edges on both sides of the carrier and run thread through them so that it spans the width of the carrier just between the frames. It was easy enough to do and worked good enough for me!

Interesting! Thanks for the tip. What software did you use with it?

 

[birbal]

I had this scanner for approx 3 years and I was quite pleased with it (considering the price range). The medium format holder is not the best but mostly it does the job. I never had problems with the negative not being flat...but I must admit it takes a bit of fiddling around.

An alternative, you can buy this holder if you think is worth the price. I never had it but I heard is really good: Variable Height MF Film Holder with ANR Glass insert

I hope this helps.

 

[Joao]

I put a ANR glass rectangle the same size of the flm strip directly over the film. Not the perfect solution but it flattens the film and the results are better than scanning a curled film. I use the original Canon software.
As a ANR glass I use a piece of anti-reflection glass cut from a commercial picture frame - I don't know if it the same glass as professional (expensive) ANR glass , but it does the job...

BTW, any tips for scanning 35mm films from a half-frame camera with this scanner?l

 

[WJJ3]

Interesting! Thanks for the tip. What software did you use with it?

I just used the stock software. I found it pretty quirky, but the results were fine. I had messed around with vuescan in the past but didn't like it better than the stock software. I have used silverfast on an Epson and a Plustek and thought those were pretty quirky too. Im also using a Pakon which is very quirky. Must be a pre requisite when designing scan software...

 

[Fixcinater]

My 9000F works better with MF scans when I use the stock holders above the film and hold it down flush to the glass. 35mm benefits too when I just hold the film down to the glass. Wish the scanner was focus-height adjustable.

 

[Scrambler]

My 9000F works better with MF scans when I use the stock holders above the film and hold it down flush to the glass. 35mm benefits too when I just hold the film down to the glass. Wish the scanner was focus-height adjustable.

I have the lower res 8800F with the same holders. Like most here I scan with the film on the glass and a glass cover plate. I scan emulsion up. I have used the provided software and currently vuescan. Either way the glass-film-glass gives me better results than the holders, for 120 and for 35mm. Mind you I now use a FS 4000us for 35mm which apart from better optics also has a better 35mm holder.

 

[FredtheLlama]

My 9000F works better with MF scans when I use the stock holders above the film and hold it down flush to the glass. 35mm benefits too when I just hold the film down to the glass. Wish the scanner was focus-height adjustable.

Good idea, I'll try that.

I put a ANR glass rectangle the same size of the flm strip directly over the film. Not the perfect solution but it flattens the film and the results are better than scanning a curled film. I use the original Canon software.
As a ANR glass I use a piece of anti-reflection glass cut from a commercial picture frame - I don't know if it the same glass as professional (expensive) ANR glass , but it does the job...

BTW, any tips for scanning 35mm films from a half-frame camera with this scanner?l

Cheers, I'll look into getting some high quality glass cut. I'm not paying $80+ for an ANR holder from America!

And what do you need help with when scanning half frames? I like to try 'pseudo panoramas' with my Pen.

Look here - http://freshfromthestreet.tumblr.com/post/63828630413

Cheers

 

[Joao]

...
And what do you need help with when scanning half frames? ...

The Canon software cannot read correctly frames smaller than standard 35 mm size. When I try I get parts of some frames and other frames split in two separate images. I need to make several scans for the same film strip, in different positions, and save the random complete frames that I get during this process . It takes time and patience...
Maybe there are some features of the software that I have not yet found...
Regards
Joao

 

[FredtheLlama]

The Canon software cannot read correctly frames smaller than standard 35 mm size. When I try I get parts of some frames and other frames split in two separate images. I need to make several scans for the same film strip, in different positions, and save the random complete frames that I get during this process . It takes time and patience...
Maybe there are some features of the software that I have not yet found...
Regards
Joao

I've just turned my laptop off so I can't look at the software right now to check my settings, but I didn't have any problems scanning 1/2 frame with it.

Off the top of my head, I 'open the scanner driver', then hit 'preview'. This scans quickly and brings up most of the frames. I then zoom in, and select each frame and crop/select the boarders I want. There is a button that's lets you drag and drop your own frame lines to scan. I use that for panoramas or if it doesn't pick up a frame.

Sorry if you already know this, but I hope this helps.

 

[Fixcinater]

Yes, you can select your own scan areas and select/deselect at will.

The interface for that feature is not exactly intuitive but worthy of exploration.

 

[sem]

This works perfect.

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/mainintro.html

and vue scan

best

 

[Joao]

Thank you FredtheLlama and Fixcinater.
I am grateful for your tips. I had never found that possibility (my fault) and I will certainly explore and use it in the near future.
Time to get the half-frame cameras out of the shelf !!
Best regards
Joao

 

[FredtheLlama]

Thank you FredtheLlama and Fixcinater.
I am grateful for your tips. I had never found that possibility (my fault) and I will certainly explore and use it in the near future.
Time to get the half-frame cameras out of the shelf !!
Best regards
Joao

No worries, glad I could help. It's s bit quirky when you select a frame manually, you have to click the 'hand' button to move the preview before you select the next frame!

And try and make a pseudo panorama if you struggle to use up 72 frames!

 

[agi]

There's a toothpick hack if you're interested. I tried it when I used the 9000F which I'm going back to since my Nikon 8000 is dead 🙁. https://www.flickr.com/groups/120/discuss/72157594533712370/