Chinese Red Flag 20 and lenses

[Will]

I know there are some very good machinists in Hong Kong who can hack almost everything. If I can find that 50/0.8 lens, I may wish to convert it to fit a Fed-2.

Oh?

This would be interesting...

Since I got the contax to M adapter, may I can plant a lens onto one the rear of a Helios-103, if the kiev mount (the lens one) have large enough opening; or we can plant something on a elmar/russia collapsible foucs group as the photos above.

Maybe a Contarex 50mm Planar?

Something like this would be fun:

50 f/0.8? Is it a x-ray lens or something?

If you want speed, go for TV lense, but I don't think they cover the 35mm format.

Zhang, will get the phone number off you later.

So, any new toys?




Will

 

[zhang xk]

Oh?

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50 f/0.8? Is it a x-ray lens or something?

If you want speed, go for TV lense, but I don't think they cover the 35mm format.

Zhang, will get the phone number off you later.

So, any new toys?




Will

That was a photographic lens made by a R&D institute in the 1980's IIRC, but I can't locate the source now. Another R&D center made a MD mount 500mm F4 prime lens at about the same time. I saw such a lens for sale sometime ago,but the seller withdrew the offer.

If those high qulaity 35mm sine lens is cheap in Hong Kong, they should be seriously investigated. I find them very, very expensive elsewhere. Even the daily rent of a few Zeiss primes could cost many hundred US$!

Here is another Russian 28mm F2 35mm cine lens on a Zorki 1. It has no brand name and only stops down to F8? :bang:

I took a test shot with the Chinese cine 50/1.3 with the 2X dedicated teleconverter at a sea shell at the back of the Zorki 1. It is a sharp lens like my other 35mm cine primes.



Yes, I still have a few new toys to show off.

 

[zhang xk]

Shanghai 58-IV TLR, Shanghai 203,...

Shanghai 58-IV TLR, Shanghai 203,...

Shanghai 58-IV was the 1st Shanghai TLR made in 1958. It is a Rolleiflex copy, and only 11 prototypes were made. Photo from SY916.

Shanghai 203 120 folder was only made for a single year, so that less Shanghai 203 were made than Shanghai 58-2 rangefinder cameras. Those are generally better made cameras than later Seagull 203s.

Shanghai 4 was the first production TLR made in Shanghai. Probably less than 100,000 cameras were made before it Changed to Seagull brand for export. The largest S/N of Shanghai 4 in my collection is 6368770 and an early Seagull 4 in my collection has a S/N 6378370.

 

[zhang xk]

Wooden pinhole cameras

Wooden pinhole cameras

These are some of the newly made pinhole cameras for MF and LF pinhole shooters. They appear to be well made. These sell for about RMB500-1200.

 

[zhang xk]

Studio camera

Studio camera

This is a popular Chinese studio camera. There were many photo studios all over China before cameras became popular to each household. Image quality was very good and cost was very reasonable. I still have some photos taken in those studios when I was young.

Now studios geneally use MF and 135mm cameras.

 

[rbiemer]

These are some of the newly made pinhole cameras for MF and LF pinhole shooters. They appear to be well made. These sell for about RMB500-1200.

These are beautiful cmaeras, Zhang! And don't seem too expensive. Do you know of any one selling these that could sell to the USA?
Thanks again for your posts of all of these fine machines!
Rob

 

[Hamster]

Shanghai 4 was the first production TLR made in Shanghai. Probably less than 100,000 cameras were made before it Changed to Seagull brand for export. The largest S/N of Shanghai 4 in my collection is 6368770 and an early Seagull 4 in my collection has a S/N 6378370.

I never knew that was an unusual camera! I came across one a few years ago, didn;t liked the open-close dial at the bottom so I replaced the the dial with one from a late model seagull. This camera was meant as a present to a cousin who just started in photography.

I have had good result with this camera using Potra VC 160, I think the taking lens had a blue coating.

All in all a very charming camera to use and much much better than the later seagull 4B.

 

[zhang xk]

These are beautiful cmaeras, Zhang! And don't seem too expensive. Do you know of any one selling these that could sell to the USA?
Thanks again for your posts of all of these fine machines!
Rob

Thanks Rob. I will check with the dealer if they wish to sell to the USA.

 

[zhang xk]

I never knew that was an unusual camera! I came across one a few years ago, didn;t liked the open-close dial at the bottom so I replaced the the dial with one from a late model seagull. This camera was meant as a present to a cousin who just started in photography.

I have had good result with this camera using Potra VC 160, I think the taking lens had a blue coating.

All in all a very charming camera to use and much much better than the later seagull 4B.

I agree. These early Shanghai brand 120 folders and TLRs are better made cameras. A Shanghai 4 TLR could still be found for a reasonable price if you look around. But some dealer already sell them for about RMB 1,000.

 

[zhang xk]

Seagull 4B-2

Seagull 4B-2

Seagull 4B-2 is a prototype. It has a build-in flash light. There is also a Seagull 205 microscope camera and a Seagull brand flash light set. All of them are rarely mentioned else where.

 

[zhang xk]

Seagull 9 and Dongfang S1

Seagull 9 and Dongfang S1

Seagull 9 rangefinder has a unique format of 32X24mm like that of Opema. It is a rare camera. The Dongfang S-1 was the first model of Tianjin Dongfang (east)series cameras and is much less often seen than S 2,3,4 models. These usually have a "Easter" English name. A later model of Easter was mentioned in St Denny's book.

 

[zhang xk]

The insides of a Red Flag 20

The insides of a Red Flag 20

I will show you not only the beautiful face of the world's only Leica M copy, but also the ugly inside of her. It is hard to believe such a camera could cost so much as it is still basically a LTM Leica or Zorki with a new view/rangefinder.
A Red Flag was recently offered for RMB 100,000!

A Zorki 4K or a Z-6 does not leave much to desire IMHO.

 

[Will]

Zhang:

Wow, Long Effective Base Lenght!

The little lens connected to the RF roller move at the same rate as the roller rite??




Will

 

[zhang xk]

Seagull 205 microscope camera

Seagull 205 microscope camera

Zhang:

Wow, Long Effective Base Lenght!

The little lens connected to the RF roller move at the same rate as the roller rite??




Will

This camera is not mine, but I guess it is the same as that of a Zorki or Fed.

I wonder what will be the inside of a Leica M look alike? The rangefinder looks similar to that of Leningrad's or Maybe Kiev 5's.

Here is an image of a rare Seagull 205 microscope camera FYI. And a Hongmei HM-1 120 folder. The camera is well buit, but I wish to replace its lens with that of a Russian Lubitel for its better quality.

 

[zhang xk]

Seagull TLR filters and lens shades

Seagull TLR filters and lens shades

All sorts of filters and lens shades were made for Seagull and other brands TLRs.
Some could also be used on Russian I-22, I-50 lenses. Filters and shades for these lenses are very hard to find.

 

[zhang xk]

Another sample image

Another sample image

Here is another sample image of this 1000MM F8 mirror lens vs Canon 55mm at a target of about 300 meters away. Both are 100% crops of original files. On a cloudy day, this 1000mm F8 lens is 3 times faster than the MTO 1000A(1/200 vs 1/600 second for ISO 400). It maybe possible to take sharp images on a sunny day with a lighter tripod.

I think this is one of my best find among Chinese gears.

 

[Will]

This camera is not mine, but I guess it is the same as that of a Zorki or Fed.

I wonder what will be the inside of a Leica M look alike? The rangefinder looks similar to that of Leningrad's or Maybe Kiev 5's.

Here is an image of a rare Seagull 205 microscope camera FYI. And a Hongmei HM-1 120 folder. The camera is well buit, but I wish to replace its lens with that of a Russian Lubitel for its better quality.

From Erwin Puts's site: http://www.imx.nl

 

[zhang xk]

Two uncommon 135 SLRs

Two uncommon 135 SLRs

Will,

I think Leica M's rangefinder is very similar to that of Leningrad's. Leningrad's rangefinder is very bright, but the metal parts are too brittle.

Here are two more rare Chinese cameras.

Huaxia DC-1 is a Yashica FX-3 copy and Huaxi S-90 is a Nikon FG-20 copy. Both are uncommon cameras. I saw some Huaxi S-90s for sale a couple of years ago. They were not nearly as well made as a Nikon FG-20.

Zhang

 

[Will]

Here are two more rare Chinese cameras.

Huaxia DC-1 is a Yashica FX-3 copy and Huaxi S-90 is a Nikon FG-20 copy. Both are uncommon cameras. I saw some Huaxi S-90s for sale a couple of years ago. They were not nearly as well made as a Nikon FG-20.

Zhang

How come we the chinese people can't make new stuff that overseas want?

Like Exakta and Pentacon to East Germany...

The last domestic camera I was excited about was the Phenix T101, then that doesn't measure against the Jap's or German's.

Phenix 617 sounds nice

With the digital age, is there anything we can do instead of selling Large Format Camera?

 

[Will]

Zhang,

Still planning a trip mid-June..

Where should I go in China?