Sadly, it seems we mostly have nothing but Neville Chamberlains. Except instead of conceding Czechoslovakia, we want to cede our own borders.
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bmattock
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Not yet, unfortunately. Hopefully to someday be made redundant.
bmattock
Veteran
How did you manage to let the French occupy you? Did they threaten you with their stale baguettes and bad cigarettes?
Seriously, dude. I'd be ashamed to admit the French had me under their thumb. It's like saying you were beat up by mimes. It just isn't manly.
dexdog
Veteran
There is no stigma attached to giving stuff away. I typically donate about $5,000 a year to charities, all tax deductible. As long as one does not try to claim non-qualifying donations (such as RFF freebies) as a deduction on tax forms, there is no problem. Believe or not, rangefinders, even so-called Russian rangefinders, are not prohibited in USA. Russisn products are like any other products in the market. Also, while there is no law against being a socialist in the US, it is generally frowned upon.
Cheers,
dexdog
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Frowned upon except by the socialists themselves and the media of course. 
bmattock
Veteran
You know what they call a socialist in Northern California? Conservative.
dexdog
Veteran
As I imagined, you are not happy with the powers that be. BTW, I am not your colonial friend. I think that the Basques, like the Kurds in Iraq, should have self-government. Is it likely to happen any time soon? Maybe not. But just because I am a citizen of USA does not make me a colonial friend. Jeez, give a guy a break!
M. Valdemar
Well-known
This is basically the entire French Army.
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MikeL
Go Fish
Do you know the requirement is for members of the Republican party in North Carolina? Potty trained.
bob338
Well-known
i helped out some jerk in spain by declaring a camera to be worth $5. he threatened me with a negative if i didn't refund his $60, so i gave him his money back.
won't do it again...
bmattock
Veteran
Do you know the requirement is for members of the Republican party in North Carolina? Potty trained.
I'm so glad I am neither one nor the other...but I still manage to get into trouble...
bob338
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Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
I don't buy speeding as a moral issue. When I get a ticket, I pay it and don't try to weasel out of it. Now, I don';t intend to speed, I just find that I tend to drive as fast as everyone else.
I am not "sending money to a foreign government", I'm sending a canera or a lens. What level of taxes or duties imposed by said country is NOT my business. That is between the buyer and HIS country. I'm a neutral third party.
You can do as you please, but respect those of us who wish to not lie and cheat. If you won't respect me, why then should I respect you?
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Most likely as soon as one of the mods sees it...
bmattock
Veteran
Be vewwwwwwy qwiet...
dexdog
Veteran
There are a lot of unfortunate events in history. The situation of the Basques is merely an example. As tragic as the partition of the Middle East and Central/Eastern Europe following WW1, except that it happened so long ago
M. Valdemar
Well-known
That's my point. Undervaluation is not "illegal". Value is subjective.
You rationalize your behavior when it suits you, then, on the other hand, you immediately declare something else in terms of moral absolutes? Can't you see this clearly?
So your rationalization for illegal behavior is that "everyone else" is doing it?
If you owned a camera and wanted to send it overseas, how would you value it? Without selling it on eBay? Just make up a figure? Pick a number from a price guide?
What if you bought a Leica M4 with Summicron at a yard sale for $10? That's the "value", right? The whole concept of "value" is screwed up. You are not "lying and cheating" anybody with a customs form. Wake up.
You rationalize your behavior when it suits you, then, on the other hand, you immediately declare something else in terms of moral absolutes? Can't you see this clearly?
So your rationalization for illegal behavior is that "everyone else" is doing it?
If you owned a camera and wanted to send it overseas, how would you value it? Without selling it on eBay? Just make up a figure? Pick a number from a price guide?
What if you bought a Leica M4 with Summicron at a yard sale for $10? That's the "value", right? The whole concept of "value" is screwed up. You are not "lying and cheating" anybody with a customs form. Wake up.
f/stopblues
photo loner
Al, well said. I don't understand why it's such an issue if I chose to play by the rules. For that matter, I may choose to sell to North America only just for this reason; to not have to deal with such questions at all. Seems simple enough.. Neutrality isn't so evil
M. Valdemar
Well-known
I brought up the point that Americans are the most offended by doing this because it's a "religious" hotpoint.
We have become a nation of fundamental moralists. More people in jail than any other country.
I think I have now illustrated my point that people do not want to "undervalue" on customs forms because they are afraid that God will punish them.
It is a religious issue, not a legal one for most people.
We have become a nation of fundamental moralists. More people in jail than any other country.
I think I have now illustrated my point that people do not want to "undervalue" on customs forms because they are afraid that God will punish them.
It is a religious issue, not a legal one for most people.
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