E Pee One, A Poll, are You In or Out?

[kxl]

What I would really like is AF for the Epson R-D1s. Barring EXACTLY that, I would consider something that comes very, very close to that in size, function, IQ, etc... So, for my need, the jury is still out.

 

[DougFord]

[FONT=&quot]I’m out. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Form factor alone won’t get me to buy into the whole digital camera thing.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]OK who’s next? Samsung is in the batter’s box with the NX. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Larger sensors with morphing form factors, each company fishing for the right mix of features and performance.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Samsung’s up next with perhaps Panasonics’ version of their m4/3 RF to follow. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If nothing else, it’s an interesting time as these new designs are paraded out before us, one after another. [/FONT]

 

[Traut]

I was looking for another answer option Yes before release but No now.

My reason is the feature set is a compromise to keep it small but once you dd the flash you're larger than the G1. I want a G1 without the "hump". I already have one and enjoy immensly.

 

[Jamie Pillers]

Not this one. But they're getting closer. If this one had a flippable LCD screen (or NO LCD screen) and a viewfinder I would be a "Yes... I WANT IT!" I really like the fact that it has in-camera anti-shake feature. This means that even with a f2.8 lens, you can hand-hold down to much slower speeds and avoid the need for faster lenses.

 

[RayPA]

I always feel like I want to support efforts like this (micro 4/3, unique innovative design, etc.). I love my little Pen F, and I think Olympus is a great company, especially for recognizing the value inherit in the Pen design. However, The price is a little high, and even though the the lack of an EVF is a disheartening deal-breaker, I voted maybe. Because, I would get the EP1 before I would get a DP2 or some other high-end fixed-focal length dP&S.

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[amateriat]

No shoes, no shirt, no finder, no sale.


- Barrett

 

[reala_fan]

No shoes, no shirt, no finder, no sale.

- Barrett

Perfecty said, Barret - I'm with you, 100%

 

[ruben]

I will wait for the price to come down. Yes, I want one.

If so, remember to call me when you sell.

 

[splitimageview]

What's interesting is the E-P1 with 17mm and viewfinder is $899, the 17mm by itself is $299 and the viewfinder is $99; body only is $749.

I suspect we will be buying a lot of the body and 17, and unbundling. 😉 This will be nice for G1 owners who just want the 17 and for those who want to use the E-P1 just with legacy lenses.

 

[davies24]

This has me tempted. Appears it might be a good replacement for my current GX100.

Main problem for me being the dodgy auto focus. Ok so I could resort to manual focus but with the low resolution lcd screen manual focusing would prove painful and I'm not very good at guessing distances (do the micro 4/3rds lenses even have distance scales?)

Three bug bears with my GX100 are 1) slow autofocus, 2) slow RAW write speed and 3) poor high ISO performance so maybe the E P1 can improve on two out of three points for me.

 

[mawz]

As a G1 owner, the 17's a definite but the E-P1's a definite maybe. Depends on how much better TruPic V is for high ISO work than the G1's processing. If I can get a stop more out of an E-P1 I might grab it for low-light work only, but the G1 with it's EVF and flip/twist LCD will remain my main body.

 

[back alley]

i'll wait for the panasonic 20/1.7.

these days that 40 fov is the one i am likin'.

 

[Gary Sandhu]

I ended up finally buying the olympus e-420 with pancake lens after seeing the e-p1. Oh well; I might get it for the video mode.

 

[dacaccia]

I recently bought a DP2, and I think its Foveon tops those m43 sensors easily. The Oly looks nice, but if a Retro Design I would expect a "retro" inside, that means, only the essential features (like M8). Instead, they put in motive programmes, "art" (just make your picture in the camera instead outside in PS), filming - but no viewfinder. Ridiculous in my eyes.

 

[dovevadar]

no built-in view finder? no way!

 

[yanidel]

This being a rangefinder forum, I will give my point of view based on the E-P1's abiity as a rangefinder compared to DP2 and M8.

Size which obviously is one of the big advantage of rangefinders ...., it falls in between the DP2 and the M8. I can just put the DP2 in my suit pocket with view finder on (Jeans pockets is a no go). Therefore, be it the the E-P1 or M8 you either need a strap or bag to carry them (remember that in Europe we don't wear baggy clothes 🙂 ). If you own a M8, than the compact complementary camera in terms of size is the DP2.

Manual focus .... (I hardly ever use AF). Very important point as the DP2 can be focused without looking at the LCD by estimating distance and using the jog dial. This is a huge advantage over the E-P1 where apparently it will have to be done by looking at the screen. Aperture is also modified very easily on the DP2 and can be done without looking at LCD.

Lenses ... The E-P1 currently offers a 17mm 1.8 on 2x crop factor sensor vs the 24mm 2.8 of the DP2 on a 1.7x crop factor. Selective focus and OOF ability is bigger on the DP2. Of course the E-P1 has interchangeable lenses, but then, better go with the M8 has point #1 shows you need a strap or bag anyway.

The E-P1 has IMO a great look and probably give great IQ in a small body but it is not a compact digital rangefinder. The DP2 gets closer to that even if it cannot substitute a M8 or R-D1. The E-P1 is a more versatile camera, yet it is a compact DSLR even if it has the looks of a rangefinder.

So in the end, I might buy the beige E-P1 for my girlfriend 😉

 

[majid]

What I would really like is AF for the Epson R-D1s.

i.e. a digital Contax G2...

This being a rangefinder forum, I will give my point of view based on the E-P1's abiity as a rangefinder compared to DP2 and M8.

Size which obviously is one of the big advantage of rangefinders ...., it falls in between the DP2 and the M8.

Much closer to the DP2 than to the M8, though, at least if you use the 17mm pancake. The M8 and R-D1 are coat-pocketable if you use a pancake lens like the 40mm f/1.4 Nokton, 35mm f/2.5 Skopar or Summarit.

The optimum in size were really the Contax T (which had a real rangefinder, albeit not one with a sharp-edged RF patch for vernier focusing) and the Olympus XA.

I can just put the DP2 in my suit pocket with view finder on (Jeans pockets is a no go).

I can't fit any camera in my jean pockets. Perhaps that says something about my girth...

Manual focus .... (I hardly ever use AF). Very important point as the DP2 can be focused without looking at the LCD by estimating distance and using the jog dial.

I can't emphasize enough how much better the focus wheel is on the DP2 than on the DP1. Combined with the MF assist magnification feature, it makes MF very usable (and quite possibly preferable to the DP2's lackluster AF in many circumstances).

The E-P1 has IMO a great look and probably give great IQ in a small body but it is not a compact digital rangefinder. The DP2 gets closer to that even if it cannot substitute a M8 or R-D1.

Well, I use the DP1/DP2 far more often than the M8 (the R-D1 is relegated to car glove box duty).

 

[Colman]

Depends: want to see some reviews of production models used with MF lenses before I decide.

 

[kywong]

Now that my initial excitement died down a little, I think I'll wait. Honestly, the DPReview samples had me underwhelmed, but that is usually the case with these technical reviewers' samples. What I'll do is wait until I see some proper photos taken by you lads or the guys on Flickr.

If it really did have slow AF, it would be a deal breaker for me as I already have a DP1. The screen resolution has me a little worried, but if the Oly 17mm VF is good, I think I'll be fine.

 

[MReidPhotography]

I think the reason why we wont see VF on cameras like these as they come out is because they still want to market to the p&s crowd while still managing to have interchangeable lenses. The idea is there, i love the camera, i just have to actually hold it and shoot a few shots with it before i can drop 900 bux on something like that. But as more and more companies come out with similar products i don't think we will be seeing VF on them, however i do admit they should have done a better job on the LCD screen since they did decide to forego the VF. If AF is even decent and IQ is Excellent at low speeds while good at higher speeds then I think I will eventually drop the money for it, if i can scrounge it up; time to open up my male escort business again, it's the one thing that seems to do well in this economy!