Earth Hour is our chance to shine...

[BillP]

The main idea behind this move is to create awareness and encourage young people to become aware, that's one of the reasons they have a concert in Toronto today with Nelly Furtado (?) and other celebrities.

The older generation will never get it and they have already pretty much screwd the envorinment so now its upto the young people to bring about a chage.

It's not about "getting it". This is a nonsense. The power will still be generated. Not one jot or iota of difference will be made. This is the sort of feelgood claptrap that makes people think they have made a difference - and feel all shiny and sanctimonious about it - when in actual fact they are totally deluding themselves.

Regards,

Bill

 

[splitimageview]

Feel free to go back to the 1800s, my friend. Nothing is stopping you from saving the planet in this manner. 😉

 

[Nh3]

It's not about "getting it". This is a nonsense. The power will still be generated. Not one jot or iota of difference will be made. This is the sort of feelgood claptrap that makes people think they have made a difference - and feel all shiny and sanctimonious about it - when in actual fact they are totally deluding themselves.

Regards,

Bill

Turning the lights for one hour is symbolic and attention grabbing. Combine that with concerts and events, you get a lot of young people involved and there you inform them and also imply that saving energy is 'cool'.

That's all really.

In that one hour nuclear, gas, and coal powered turbines are not going to stop, but that's not the point. the point is creating awareness and changing peoples' minds, especially the younger ones so they grow up being energy conscious.

 

[BillP]

Turning the lights for one hour is symbolic and attention grabbing. Combine that with concerts and events, you get a lot of young people involved and there you inform them and also imply that saving energy is 'cool'.

That's all really.

In that one hour nuclear, gas, and coal powered turbines are not going to stop, but that's not the point. the point is creating awareness and changing peoples' minds, especially the younger ones so they grow up being energy conscious.

One, poorly publicised hour, will not change people's minds.

Regards,

Bill

 

[Nh3]

One, poorly publicised hour, will not change people's minds.

Regards,

Bill

In the end we're all dead but that does not mean we stop living. I'm not being overly optimistic but life is about trying otherwise whats the point...

Turn off your lights between 8-9pm and just relax for one hour.

 

[BillP]

In the end we're all dead but that does not mean we stop living. I'm not being overly optimistic but life is about trying otherwise whats the point...

Turn off your lights between 8-9pm and just relax for one hour.

Strangely enough, they are seldom on. I prefer candlelight when relaxing, and that is what I usually do on a Saturday night if not out chorusing.

I certainly don't need a publicity stunt to encourage me to do so. As I pointed out at the outset, I have worked with the industry for 20 years. Would you like me to bore you on the cost benefit case for smartmetering? Now legislation to introduce that WILL make far more of a difference than some well-intentioned diddling about.

Regards,

Bill

 

[Nh3]

Strangely enough, they are seldom on. I prefer candlelight when relaxing, and that is what I usually do on a Saturday night if not out chorusing.

I certainly don't need a publicity stunt to encourage me to do so. As I pointed out at the outset, I have worked with the industry for 20 years. Would you like me to bore you on the cost benefit case for smartmetering? Now legislation to introduce that WILL make far more of a difference than some well-intentioned diddling about.

Regards,

Bill

Actually there is one major flaw with this "earth hour" idea which no one seems to mention. What if there is a sudden surge in crime in this one hour when the lights are off?

🙂

 

[Al Patterson]

What we need to do is radically decrease the surplus population.

Let's say we get rid of all the low IQ people, the fatties, the uglies, and the oldies.

If we eliminate them immediately, that would free up a LOT of "energy".

I'd also appoint myself the Minister of Public Good, and just get rid of anyone who annoys me in general. And take away electricity for the lumpen. They've got no brains anyhow. And ban any "music" created after 1970 or so.

Now while I agree with you that there are too many people in the world, why don't you lead by example and off yourself? Probably for the same reason I don't volunteer. And besides, how would we determine who is too stupid, too fat, too ugly or too old?

Better we should replace any newer appliances, lightbulbs, roofs and windows with ones that are more efficient than those we are replacing.

And I do like some music from the 1980's, although banning Disco would be fine with me....

😉

 

[splitimageview]

You mean, the only major flaw other than the entire concept? 🙂

Let's face it, if one buys into the belief that energy use (i.e., life) is causing the death of the planet, then not using energy for an hour is only going to help the planet last another...hour.

Real change would require everyone in civilized areas to start living like those in the Third World. Which in reality, is what this political movement (yes, political, not scientific) is all about...hurting the economy of the USA and other industrialized nations.

 

[Al Patterson]

Strangely enough, they are seldom on. I prefer candlelight when relaxing, and that is what I usually do on a Saturday night if not out chorusing.

I certainly don't need a publicity stunt to encourage me to do so. As I pointed out at the outset, I have worked with the industry for 20 years. Would you like me to bore you on the cost benefit case for smartmetering? Now legislation to introduce that WILL make far more of a difference than some well-intentioned diddling about.

Regards,

Bill

I wonder how much improvement could be made if we just turn off the television one hour a night and read a book instead.

 

[RML]

Real change would require everyone in civilized areas to start living like those in the Third World. Which in reality, is what this political movement (yes, political, not scientific) is all about...hurting the economy of the USA and other industrialized nations.

Real change would mean living and using resources responsibly. Wasting resources costs money. Money that could be spend in better, or at least different, ways. That wouldn't hurt any economy, except perhaps the US economy since it's founded on wasting anyway.

 

[RML]

I wonder how much improvement could be made if we just turn off the television one hour a night and read a book instead.

How about turning it on only once a week for a few hours and spend the rest of the evenings reading, studying, talking? I assure you, that does make a difference. At least it does to me, my wife and my kid.

 

[splitimageview]

Real change would mean living and using resources responsibly. Wasting resources costs money. Money that could be spend in better, or at least different, ways. That wouldn't hurt any economy, except perhaps the US economy since it's founded on wasting anyway.

This movement is not about conservation, however. No one is saying saving money on your electric bill is a bad thing. 🙂 But turning everything off for an hour is only going to save people a few cents! Which is why it's not advertised as such.

 

[Al Patterson]

How about turning it on only once a week for a few hours and spend the rest of the evenings reading, studying, talking? I assure you, that does make a difference. At least it does to me, my wife and my kid.

I live alone, so no talking...

But, I'm down to only watching "Lost" and "Battlestar Gallactica" these days as I'm on the road. I find reading 3 or 4 books a week a better use my time anyway.