First look preview of X100 at dpreview.com

What Fujiguys actually tweeted about Norwegian review was:
"Fujiguys: #Fuji X100 review from Norwegian website is unauthorized by Tokyo. Somebody's gonna get a hurt, real bad...."
 
Quash said:
What Fujiguys actually tweeted about Norwegian review was:
"Fujiguys: #Fuji X100 review from Norwegian website is unauthorized by Tokyo. Somebody's gonna get a hurt, real bad...."
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Pity, because the sample images show amazing noise performance and that it has a great lens... Makes me even more excited considering it's without a doubt a barely functioning test mule!
 
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fdigital said:
Not those ones - they're sharp as a tack.

These ones (f/2) -

http://images.gfx.no/786/786608/DSCF3373.JPG.jpg
http://images.gfx.no/786/786602/DSCF3365.JPG.jpg
http://images.gfx.no/786/786600/DSCF3362.JPG.jpg
http://images.gfx.no/786/786601/DSCF3364.JPG.jpg

Reminds me of my zeiss 35mm f2 distagon, but the fujinon seems less harsh in rendition.
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I wonder which color mode those images were taken with as the X100 is suppose to replicate Fuji's films, ec, Provia, Sensia, Velvia and etc...
 
tapesonthefloor said:
Those samples were shot at ƒ/5.6.
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That corner softness, while regrettable, is not that big a deal. I took the one of the Trees and snow with winding path into photoshop and went through my normal sharpening procedures. In an image like that I might crop off just a little of the upper edges, but most of the time the extreme corners are either out of focus background, or sky that doesn't matter. The few times there is something like a tree or wire that shows off this corner softness, the rest of the image is plenty sharp to crop away a little if you need flawless edge to edges sharpness.

I see it, but it doesn't worry me. That is one aspect though that I doubt will improve at all by launch, since it's related to the lens design.

Anyone else notice any vignetting? Me neither! Seems to be none whatsoever.


fdigital said:
From those samples, the lens looks really good. Typically any lens is going to have some minor faults wide open.

Those samples are crazy crazy crazy. Looks like it blows my 5d into the weeds for noise performance.
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I know, right? That ISO 6400 looks like 1600 on the 5D. I asked the reviewer by email if he had any low light shots, but he said no because it was too cold out at night, haha. I did however take a few of them and increase exposure 4+ stops and didn't notice any banding, even on the 6400 shot. Noise? yes. Banding? no.

Glad I saved all the example images, as they've been removed from the article. Seems the links still work though, which I believe most are in this thread.
 
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videogamemaker said:
Glad I saved all the example images, as they've been removed from the article. Seems the links still work though, which I believe most are in this thread.
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All (most?) of the links seem to be down now, too. I didn't save the full versions of the en plein air sample images, but I do have all the comparison zooms (motherboard, garbage bin) archived if anyone wants them.
 
videogamemaker said:
The jog dial is for adjusting the Fn setting, as I've said multiple times. It's very unlikely it will be initially set to adjust zone focusing, and from what's been released so far, I don't think zone focusing presets will be possible with any button combo on the X100.
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I had long ago joked with other posters that I had committed the X100 specs to memory...if not perfect memory. I love a link to someplace where your remarks originate.

All we know so far is that the <Fn> button can be used to call up a favourite menu function...and default set to ISO choices [thus also user assignable].

I have never read anywhere since Photokina at day-zero that the "convenient command lever" [Fuji] or now called "jog" lever [dpreview] is dedicated to, or locked-step with the <Fn> button.

Supposed the jog lever is so lock-linked, but if within the menu there is a preset focal distance option...or other multiple-choice options...wouldn't the idea still work?

[I, for one, is not prone to frequent ISO changes.]

Zone focusing is really just causing the lens motorized IF sub-system to set the lens at a prescribed encoder position...thereby providing the desired DoF within an f-stop...why wouldn't it work?

See also: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1505329#post1505329
 
Frankie said:
I had long ago joked with other posters that I had committed the X100 specs to memory...if not perfect memory. I love a link to someplace where your remarks originate.

All we know so far is that the <Fn> button can be used to call up a favourite menu function...and default set to ISO choices [thus also user assignable].

I have never read anywhere since Photokina at day-zero that the "convenient command lever" [Fuji] or now called "jog" lever [dpreview] is dedicated to, or locked-step with the <Fn> button.

Supposed the jog lever is so lock-linked, but if within the menu there is a preset focal distance option...or other multiple-choice options...wouldn't the idea still work?

[I, for one, is not prone to frequent ISO changes.]

Zone focusing is really just causing the lens motorized IF sub-system to set the lens at a prescribed encoder position...thereby providing the desired DoF within an f-stop...why wouldn't it work?

See also: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1505329#post1505329
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I know what zone focusing is, and how it would work with the X100.

How about this. If the jog dial does not adjust the Fn commands, I will buy you your filter adapter ring for the X100. If it doesn't, you have to buy me mine.

It doesn't matter if it wasn't listed *specifically* to adjust ISO. It has been listed as adjusting various commands. The Fn button has been listed to bring up various options. The jog dial is where Nikon and most other camera manufacturers put the most used dial. There is no other camera function it could be for other than to adjust the Fn commands. It is closer and more likely than the wheel, and the wheel has definite other labels and design wise will be for the LCD menu diving and selecting.

You're just being pendantic to say "it hasn't been announced, it *could* be the Fn controls, or it could be something else". It is.

Even 5 seconds of thought and reference of all past camera designs points to it.
 
For those who like to use X100 for street photography, auto ISO with minimum shutter speed would be more useful than a dedicated ISO button. Set the minimum shutter speed to 1/250, set the max ISO to whichever you feel is the peak in IQ and then just shoot like there is no tomorrow.
 
GSNfan said:
For those who like to use X100 for street photography, auto ISO with minimum shutter speed would be more useful than a dedicated ISO button. Set the minimum shutter speed to 1/250, set the max ISO to whichever you feel is the peak in IQ and then just shoot like there is no tomorrow.
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I agree, and I'm hoping for auto ISO with a maximum limit setting. I asked the Norwegian reviewer, and tweeted this question to Fujiguys, but they said they weren't allowed to answer, and the reviewer said he didn't see that option in his firmware, but that it looked extremely unfinished and could easily have it in the final version.

If there is an auto-ISO, I won't ever have to touch anything but the manual controls, which would be sweet.

*edit* this looks promising! From the S5, the last fuji large sensor camera:

Fujifilm S5 Pro Auto ISO
The Auto ISO is used to set a lower limit in regard to shutter speed and an upper limit in regard to the ISO.

The S200EXR, one of their most recent cameras, has auto ISO with user definable upper and lower limits too.

Welp, looks like it's very likely they will include this in the X100 too.
 
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videogamemaker said:
I know what zone focusing is, and how it would work with the X100.

How about this. If the jog dial does not adjust the Fn commands, I will buy you your filter adapter ring for the X100. If it doesn't, you have to buy me mine.

It doesn't matter if it wasn't listed *specifically* to adjust ISO. It has been listed as adjusting various commands. The Fn button has been listed to bring up various options. The jog dial is where Nikon and most other camera manufacturers put the most used dial. There is no other camera function it could be for other than to adjust the Fn commands. It is closer and more likely than the wheel, and the wheel has definite other labels and design wise will be for the LCD menu diving and selecting.

You're just being pendantic to say "it hasn't been announced, it *could* be the Fn controls, or it could be something else". It is.

Even 5 seconds of thought and reference of all past camera designs points to it.
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Allow me to repeat the question:

Supposed the jog lever is so lock-linked, but if within the menu there is a preset focal distance option...or other multiple-choice options...wouldn't the idea still work?
 
videogamemaker said:
I agree, and I'm hoping for auto ISO with a maximum limit setting. I asked the Norwegian reviewer, and tweeted this question to Fujiguys, but they said they weren't allowed to answer, and the reviewer said he didn't see that option in his firmware, but that it looked extremely unfinished and could easily have it in the final version.

If there is an auto-ISO, I won't ever have to touch anything but the manual controls, which would be sweet.

*edit* this looks promising! From the S5, the last fuji large sensor camera:

Fujifilm S5 Pro Auto ISO
The Auto ISO is used to set a lower limit in regard to shutter speed and an upper limit in regard to the ISO.

The S200EXR, one of their most recent cameras, has auto ISO with user definable upper and lower limits too.

Welp, looks like it's very likely they will include this in the X100 too.
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Almost all of digital cameras have auto ISO, so I'm sure X100 would have that option as well, the only issue is that their minimum shutter speed is usually 1/60 which is not fast enough. On the other hand you can also set the min shutter speed to 1/30 and get moving objects slightly blurred and stationery objects in full focus.

Maybe while you're waiting for X100, pick a cheap fixed lens RF and a role of film, it would be good practice.
 
GSNfan said:
Almost all of digital cameras have auto ISO, so I'm sure X100 would have that option as well, the only issue is that their minimum shutter speed is usually 1/60 which is not fast enough.......
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An alternative would be auto-ISO with low, medium, and high range options. Easy enough to implement in the firmware but more buttons to push...

Hey, hey, hey..., why not use the Fn+jog to do just that. 😀
 
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