btgc
Veteran
I'll second this opinion.
Personally I like stepped zooms and then I come to idea about wide/tele P&S - there were many of them produced. Maybe Ricoh TF-500/900. Choose either setting and be there.
Spyderman
Well-known
Olympus AF-1 Twin
35/3.5 and 70/5.6 in one body
Bought one recently, but didn't have time to try it yet.
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Zoom lenses are for movie cameras only, and even then used very sparingly.
A zoom will always be inferior to a fixed focal length lens.
Having said that, I do like my Zuiko 28-48mm wide zoom on my Olympus OM2 every once in a while.
A zoom will always be inferior to a fixed focal length lens.
Having said that, I do like my Zuiko 28-48mm wide zoom on my Olympus OM2 every once in a while.
StanSmith
Member
P&S zooms are just too slow. Many are are f/6.8 at the long end.
John Bragg
Well-known
How about the Olympus Stylus Epic with 35mm f2.8 fixed lens ? I bought the Mju II (the equivalent UK model) for a rediculously cheap price and it is a little pocket gem..
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Fixed could have more rapid action - but very few p-n-s with primes (even less, if we consider the otherwise desirable ones) ever had a solid lens, and once motor extension, AF etc. are the limiting factor alike, that advantage gets lost. Optically, modern, modest range zooms usually are no worse than primes (my mju V is as good as my mju II, and both are in the same quality range as decent 80's vintage SLR/RF primes, as long as we disregard distortion), so it is a matter of taste whether you'd rather have a bit of zoom or one or two stops more speed.
Sevo
Sevo
btgc
Veteran
I like Fuji Zoom Date F2.8 (I like shorter Japanese name better - Silvi). Switched on, it stays on 24mm setting, and has Quick Shot mode - single button switches camera on and puts AF to fixed distance, working for most shots (it's at wide lens setting, too, so this works). This camera has cleared my prejudice to zoom P&S's.
Took this shot in QS mode - saw them in very last moment as until this I were busy with daugter, something telling her. Once I saw policemen approaching - and they weren't too slow - pushed button, framed and then pressed release. VF is small, in fact I could frame better - had time yet.
Took this shot in QS mode - saw them in very last moment as until this I were busy with daugter, something telling her. Once I saw policemen approaching - and they weren't too slow - pushed button, framed and then pressed release. VF is small, in fact I could frame better - had time yet.
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David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
How about the Leica C3? It's a pure P&S with no over-rides but centre weighted metering and ASPH bits in the lens. The lens is, of course, brilliant.
The lens is 28 - 80 mm but not in steps of (say) 1 mm. Instead it goes from 28 to 80 is several steps. So not so many compromises in the design (well, imo). It goes from from 28 to 42 (nice one) to 50 to 60 to 70 to 80mm. Wide open it's F/3.6 and at the 80mm end only f/7.9 but that's wide for a P&S's zoom at the tele end.
Just my 2d worth.
Regards, David
How about the Leica C3? It's a pure P&S with no over-rides but centre weighted metering and ASPH bits in the lens. The lens is, of course, brilliant.
The lens is 28 - 80 mm but not in steps of (say) 1 mm. Instead it goes from 28 to 80 is several steps. So not so many compromises in the design (well, imo). It goes from from 28 to 42 (nice one) to 50 to 60 to 70 to 80mm. Wide open it's F/3.6 and at the 80mm end only f/7.9 but that's wide for a P&S's zoom at the tele end.
Just my 2d worth.
Regards, David
Greyscale
Veteran
In the context of the original post, I would certainly choose a zoom. And if I did choose a fixed focal length compact, considering the 40mm lens on the QL17, I would opt for one with a 28mm lens, those with 35 or 38mm lenses would seem redundant.
Of the cameras that I currently own, I would choose either the 28~70mm Konica Lexio if compactness was very important, or the 28~90mm Rollei Prego 90 if versatility was more of an issue. If image quality was most important, and compactness was irrelevant, then it would be either the (original) Pentax IQ Zoom, the huge Canon Sure Shot Zoom XL, or the Samsung ECX-2, all of which are probably larger than the Canonet, but all have lenses which rival those found on SLR cameras.
Of the cameras that I currently own, I would choose either the 28~70mm Konica Lexio if compactness was very important, or the 28~90mm Rollei Prego 90 if versatility was more of an issue. If image quality was most important, and compactness was irrelevant, then it would be either the (original) Pentax IQ Zoom, the huge Canon Sure Shot Zoom XL, or the Samsung ECX-2, all of which are probably larger than the Canonet, but all have lenses which rival those found on SLR cameras.
Shade
Well-known
If I was taking a PnS, It would be a zoomer.
Archiver
Veteran
If you have a nice fast fixed lens camera, a zoom would make sense as a companion. Unless, of course, you can find another prime lens compact with a sufficiently different focal length.
I, too, was tossing up between a Natura Classica zoom and a Natura Black. I found the Natura Black photos to be more striking and distinctive, and my other film compact was the Contax T3, which made the combination 24/1.9 and 35/2.8. Super stuff.
I, too, was tossing up between a Natura Classica zoom and a Natura Black. I found the Natura Black photos to be more striking and distinctive, and my other film compact was the Contax T3, which made the combination 24/1.9 and 35/2.8. Super stuff.