f16sunshine
Moderator
My 5DClassic and 5Dii. I know tgere are updates but, I don't know what those do. They were perfect afaik from the start. Of course I only have one AF lens.
Your point is a valid one though. Many issues from other makers were not and will not be addresses ever (Hi Leica! ).
The MKII seems loved, but the original one I could have sworn I heard complaints about the AF, etc. However, any review at dpreview has many Cons... not sure if that can be equated to unperfect though.
jarski
Veteran
well my Canon G1X never received any update to its flawed autofocus. probably Canon considers it too low end model to be maintained later in product life, even if there is no successive model. Leica M8 had been discontinued for a good while, and it still received firmware update to include latest lens profile and general improvements.
burancap
Veteran
gavinlg
Veteran
The original 5d had a mirror that used to come off in humid environments.
The 5dII had its share of corrective firmware.
Spyro
Well-known
They released the xpro1 too early?
Geez, this camera was about 10 years too late, the previous window finder AF system in the market was the friggin Contax G, ffs
Not everybody wants to deal with rangefinders or mini-TVs, and we've been out of the market for about a decade, and you're telling me I should wait another couple of years just so I can get rainbow peaking? Are we for real???
Geez, this camera was about 10 years too late, the previous window finder AF system in the market was the friggin Contax G, ffs
Not everybody wants to deal with rangefinders or mini-TVs, and we've been out of the market for about a decade, and you're telling me I should wait another couple of years just so I can get rainbow peaking? Are we for real???
gavinlg
Veteran
HAHAHA.
I think a lot of people bought this camera for the wrong reasons really… It is a) the only in built optical viewfinder interchangeable lens camera, and b) the only mirrorless camera with manual controls.
Things like colored focus peaking and minimum auto iso speeds are so secondary to the design focus of the camera its not even funny.
Spyro
Well-known
Agreed
It's the tech comparison culture, we always have to compare things. Problem is you can only compare thise things that are common. When sth is not common, like an OVF, you simply have to ignore it, even if it's the one thing puts the camera in an entirely different category.
OVF is important, I can write a whole essay on why it's important. EVF is also very nice for some things, especially longer lenses, but none of the two is perfect for everything. And then we have that genious solution that combines the best of both worlds with literally the flick of a switch. Ignoring that simply because it doesnt compare well with other cameras and bickering over coloured pixels (because they are easy to compare), I dont know, it seems shortsighted.
It's a WAFS camera
It's the tech comparison culture, we always have to compare things. Problem is you can only compare thise things that are common. When sth is not common, like an OVF, you simply have to ignore it, even if it's the one thing puts the camera in an entirely different category.
OVF is important, I can write a whole essay on why it's important. EVF is also very nice for some things, especially longer lenses, but none of the two is perfect for everything. And then we have that genious solution that combines the best of both worlds with literally the flick of a switch. Ignoring that simply because it doesnt compare well with other cameras and bickering over coloured pixels (because they are easy to compare), I dont know, it seems shortsighted.
yes, in short(er): Windowfinder AF System
It's a WAFS camera
GaryLH
Veteran
Ahhh.. Contax g which is actually the camera I preferred over the Leica m6 I had. I still have my g2.
. If I was not so lazy about scanning I would most likely still be using it more then I do now. The xp1 does feel like the contax cameras.
Gary
nongfuspring
Well-known
Hm, I think the goal of staggered incremental feature additions would be what you'd expect: brand awareness, customer loyalty, increased appeal to late adopters etc. etc. But really I don't know enough about the way the company works to make any valuable judgements about it.
All I know is that in the world of marketing that "mud sticks", and a less than favorable first impression is very hard to fix, which I think Fuji is a great example of. People still commonly mention RAW and AF problems even though both of these issues have been fixed in either software or new camera models some time ago.
k__43
Registered Film User
fuji brand awareness ? killing Astia and Neopan400/1600 belongs to it too
willie_901
Veteran
This is very true. Mud does stick. Perhaps Fujifilm's firmware strategy is the best way to offset a stained first impression.
willie_901
Veteran
fuji brand awareness ? killing Astia and Neopan400/1600 belongs to it too
Absolutely, but what percentage of digital camera buyers care about film?
Do other digital/analog camera brands spend a single penny of their budget on film production or even promoting film? If there is one, film users should buy their products.