igi
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I smiled when I saw the black X1 over at dpreview 
Paul T.
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Arjay
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Whenever new products are developed, the game's open for new (or maybe not so new but previously disregarded) ideas. I'm admittedly speculating, but we haven't yet seen all potential features that are theoretically possible, and so we should give Fuji the benefit of doubt.
There's a manual focus assist function that hasn't been used in many cameras, but that might potentially be the solution to that missing MF assist feature: I recall my old Nikon Coolpix 995 (one hell of a camera at its time) had an MF assist function that was quite viable - it superimposed over-accentuated contour lines in those picture areas that were in full focus, similar to a digital image with overdone unsharp masking. Actually quite effective.
Sure, contrast AF will never be as fast as phase-detect technology we know from our SLRs, but it's already way faster than anything we can do using a conventional Leica style rangefinder.
OTOH, a contrast AF based MF assist function probably won't be slower than Leica-style double-image focussing.
nksyoon
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Endgadget reports US$1000 as likely price and delivery in March 2011, quoting a Fujifilm spokesperson:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/fujifilms-finepix-x100-ships-march-2011-for-1-000-we-go-hands/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/fujifilms-finepix-x100-ships-march-2011-for-1-000-we-go-hands/
Ezzie
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$1000? They must be kidding. It should sell by the bucketload. It'll be on my X-mas wish list if they indeed are right.
Spyro
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AFAIC the significance of the distance scale on the lens instead of the LCD is that it guarantees that focus will stay put when the camera switches off or hybernates or whatever and will be where you left it when the camera switches on. Now I have to trust that Fuji didnt forget this important detail, and for some reason this makes me a little bit nervous. It'd be a shame if they stuffed this up because otherwise the camera looks good enough for a digi.
Re people comparing it with the Hexar AF: among other things there are 2 important features that made this camera a legend, one is the ultra silent shutter and the other the fact that it could AF accurately and immediately in total darkness. I wouldn't even put the Fuji in the same ballpark until I see how it fares in those areas, but with a CDAF camera I wouldnt hold my breath.
Re people comparing it with the Hexar AF: among other things there are 2 important features that made this camera a legend, one is the ultra silent shutter and the other the fact that it could AF accurately and immediately in total darkness. I wouldn't even put the Fuji in the same ballpark until I see how it fares in those areas, but with a CDAF camera I wouldnt hold my breath.
PKR
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Sug;
I've bought a lot of cameras over the years. I always (try) wait 6 months after the release date to purchase. This gives the manufacturer time to correct any QC or Firmware errors made during first production. I would think with Fuji and Nikon, these problems would be minor, but I've seen a lot of early production problems with others (Canon for one).
It also gives me time to read hands-on reviews and talk with owners. I owned a number of Fuji GA series cameras. I had trouble with one. The others were fine. I currently own a S5 Pro. No problems.. Nikon built.
Just my 2 cents.. and it looks like it will come in around $1,000. Maybe there will be a black body. p.
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Paul T.
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Indeed. Despite claims to the contrary, AF works for huge numbers of professionals and amateurs alike; but it has to be good AF.
I'm moderately encouraged by the Fuji's VF display which has a focus distance focus indicator like the Hexar. Frankly I'd be surprised if the autfocus is as good as that camera, though. But given that this is the nearest we've had so far to a concept many here have lauded, I'd personally be satisfied if the focusing is better than, say, the GF1. That would be just about good enough.
At the moment, I use my GF1 for family photos and the AF for work. It would be great if the Fuji, especially at $1000, would do both. I can see huge numbers of wedding photographers using the X100 (if it lives up to its specs) for reportage shots (the kind of thing our wedding photog did with... my Hexar!).
Cyrus
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Re badging....
Re badging....
Does anybody has a clue if this will be re-badged as a Voigtlander digital in Europe?
Re badging....
Does anybody has a clue if this will be re-badged as a Voigtlander digital in Europe?
PKR
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Anyway ... twenty five pages of obsessing about a camera that doesn't actually exist yet is worrying. I think some OT talk would be healthy!
Keith; I think one of the things that is keeping this thread alive is that many see this "vapor" camera as close to what many have been asking for over the past months. We've seen other camera companies, (nikon p 7000, canon g12) fall short of what many want.
The other really interesting thing is that this camera could be the beginning of a "movement" in a product type if Fuji is successful. If this camera is sold at the rumored $1,000 us, and is as good as it looks to be.. it will be a proof-of-concept for many, including the 4/3 manufactures. The biggest change, and most important feature is the viewing system. Until now, only Leica at $7K offers a really good system in an RF type camera.
At $7K, an out dated (18 months) camera will loose much of its value. At $1K, it's not such a big hit.
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Spyro
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Paul T.
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gavinlg
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Why do people keep saying it's a vaporware camera? It exists, a number of them do. It's not just a concept done in autocad...
Spyro
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I was so used to the idea that I'd pay $2k that now I'm wondering if there will be a black one so I can get two
chambrenoire
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Why do people keep saying it's a vaporware camera? It exists, a number of them do. It's not just a concept done in autocad...
From engadget: "Sadly, no fully functional units are present here at Photokina, but we're cautiously optimistic that we'll see one at CES."
PKR
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Why do people keep saying it's a vaporware camera? It exists, a number of them do. It's not just a concept done in autocad...
The camera we've been looking at, according to the reviews I've read, are non-working prototypes. It's a camera in physical, non picture taking form. None of the cameras work..It's a "camera sculpture" as far as I've read. If I'm wrong, please point me to a review of a working camera. I would love to read the review and see some of the camera's output.
The actual camera that is released, may be different from what you are seeing in the press reports. It's not autocad, but 3D autocad, printed.
Fuji, to their credit, may be taking a final poll of wanted and like-no/like form factor, features, before final design. I for one would like to see a black body model. There is at least one "heavyweight" from Nikon or Fuji who is on this form. I'm sure every post regarding this camera is read at Fuji.
Spyro
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JohnnyT
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OOOooo.... A speed dial!!! No way!
What is happening?
I want it sooo badly...
Thank you viruling ad...
What is happening?
I want it sooo badly...
Thank you viruling ad...
PKR
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I'll bet the price point was set as a design requirement.
I don't think the 2K thing would sway them.. coming from a RF form with M9 owners.
I've had a lot of Fuji cameras. It will likely be a very good camera. And, may be the first in a series.. could be 3 with, different focal length lenses. Look at the G series MF cameras. I don't expect to see a zoom. Even Leica, with the S2, knew for the best quality, a prime designed to fit the sensor was important. Though Leica may design a zoom or maybe use an Angenieux.