The fuji vf could be more like an rf, if you can manually focus with the optical image. I hope! Don't know if it's possible to implement focus peaking projected onto an optical image? That would be pretty sweet...
I wouldn't count on the Fuji having a great MF mode. These are AF cameras with MF as a secondary option.
Photon42
burn the box
Focal length on lens x 1.5 = real focal length.
Better deal only if you want a 35mm equiv.
The real focal length is the real focal length the lens actually has. You are stating a conversion into 35mm equiv's with the same field of view, which is what we frequently use.
I'm actually not sure the lens offerings are complete with three lenses. My take is they - as Raid is guessing - are indeed protecting the X100 up to a certain point in time (when sales go down and their stock is sold). I cannot believe they offer a camera with this capabilities without a 35mm equiv in the long run.
Another link maybe: Fujifilm Introduces First Compact System Camera
Ivo
Photon42
burn the box
I wouldn't count on the Fuji having a great MF mode. These are AF cameras with MF as a secondary option.
Which would be ok for me if the AF works well in terms of hitting properly and being really fast. If I then have the option to configure something like a fix f8/3m thing reasonably well, it would be enough for me.
The real focal length is the real focal length the lens actually has. You are stating a conversion into 35mm equiv's with the same field of view, which is what we use frequently use.
True, I should have said effective focal length based on 35mm equiv. However, I believe my point still got across.
hipsterdufus
Photographer?
This is the first digital I've been excited about for awhile... The lens lineup hits the sweet spot and it would cover all of my shooting range.
semordnilap
Well-known
I wouldn't count on the Fuji having a great MF mode. These are AF cameras with MF as a secondary option.
I agree... I will be surprised if the MF mode is decent. But that's the whole fun of new camera announcements... Speculation!
Anyway, I don't really care for AF...
Photon42
burn the box
Haven't seen anything about a US price yet...I'm hoping Fuji does the whole 1300 euros equals $1300 US thing...instead of a true exchange rate. Sorry eurozoners.
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It has always been like that or worse here (not sitting in the €-Zone, actually). But then the US$ price is usually given w/o any VAT applied, whereas the price in € normally includes (approx 19%) VAT.
I've recently noted that pricing in Switzerland on electronic camera related stuff quite came down again to reflect the more recent exchange rates to the US$. Some retailers here actually offer competitive pricing compared to e.g. B&H offerings for certain products. Especially accessories however still are often quite overpriced.
Photon42
burn the box
True, I should have said effective focal length based on 35mm equiv. However, I believe my point still got across.
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emraphoto
Veteran
I am completely befuddled by the 'x100 poor af performance' business? am I using the same camera as these folks? The cameras I use are my bread and butter and poor af performance on the x100 would most certainly be an issue for me. Strange part is it isn't?
Well, on the run for the 6th day in a row on unfolding labor story here in Canada (with x100 in tow).
Well, on the run for the 6th day in a row on unfolding labor story here in Canada (with x100 in tow).
emraphoto
Veteran
Hell, if they put out a black x100 the new X1 whatever will be of little interest to me!
I am completely befuddled by the 'x100 poor af performance' business? am I using the same camera as these folks?
Apparently, we have the only two good X100s fuji made...
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Any thoughts on the possibility that they mean 18mm, 35mm and 60mm as 35mm film equivalents?
60mm is the odd man out in that trio, but as a macro, not without precedence.
60mm is the odd man out in that trio, but as a macro, not without precedence.
exiled4979
Established
If the artist is doing documentary people photography and the people aren't static, I certainly can. Slow autofocus is one thing, but autofocus that fails or focuses on the wrong thing or hunts interminably is a real downer. The RF patch might be a bit slower than some AF systems, but it's consistent and easy to master. I have no experience with the X100, but the reports of poor AF performance have kept me far away. That and the fact that I played with one in a store in Kyoto and I was seriously underwhelmed by both the viewfinder and the build.
Regardless. This new camera looks interesting indeed. The thing that would keep me from early adopting it is waiting to hear about the AF performance.
True, I agree that static and moving people are two different things, but, we're not talking about running people (well, mostly), and it's not like AF in X100 takes 10 seconds to focus on something. I've owned it for a while, did pretty much everything with it and focusing speed in real life is more than enough. It still takes me about 5x longer to compose and take care of all details, than it takes camera to focus.
There is point to AF being slow if you're shooting from hip and just snapping away, or you expect pro-dslr lever AF, but even this is highly questionable. I did couple of hip shots in London, very busy, walking one way, subject walking in the opposite direction and it still managed to focus in time.
I agree it may not work every time perfectly, but, after like a week or so, you learn where to actually place the patch to focus on particular dot, same as with any other camera, even with dSLRs. I wasted like 5 rolls of film doing very shallow DoF portraits with Canon EOS 1n and 50 1.2, until I learned that it focuses on bottom line of the AF point...
my comment was directed to real artists who would need pro level dSLR AF, can't think of many of those... and I don't mean to offend sport-shooters as not being artists
Any thoughts on the possibility that they mean 18mm, 35mm and 60mm as 35mm film equivalents?
60mm is the odd man out in that trio, but as a macro, not without precedence.
Well, the Fuji X100 has a 23mm lens, but a 34.5mm effective focal length (based on 35mm).
claacct
Well-known
End of an era beginning of a new one.
exiled4979
Established
Haven't seen anything about a US price yet...I'm hoping Fuji does the whole 1300 euros equals $1300 US thing...instead of a true exchange rate. Sorry eurozoners.
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that's just mean
I plan to use both. X100 w/ 35mm and X-Pro1 w/ 28mm & 50mm.
paulfish4570
Veteran
i cannot imagine NOT keeping the x100. it is so stinking convenient to get such high iso photos in such a compact, lightweight kit.
Photon42
burn the box
Any thoughts on the possibility that they mean 18mm, 35mm and 60mm as 35mm film equivalents?
60mm is the odd man out in that trio, but as a macro, not without precedence.
Check my translation of the article. It is all there.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Check my translation of the article. It is all there.
I'm going to ignore that because it's not what I want to believe.
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