Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
So, with a single lens, well over $2000. No thanks.
Until it's official, there is nothing official. 
Amazon pulled the link.
Amazon pulled the link.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
The design is very pretty, but I find that location for the EV compensation control to be terrible on both the X100 and X10: it's too high and too far to the right on the body and proves an awkward movement to make precisely with my right thumb in the position that I'll normally be holding the camera.
The Fn button is similarly poorly placed for what I'd want a customizable Fn button to do.
gavinlg
Veteran
Interesting, because I find both the exposure comp and the function button to be ideally placed for me - both easy to get and naturally fall to hand.
Keep in mind this body is thicker and larger than the x100, so will be ergonomically different.
f6andBthere
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An R3A with 35mm f1.4 Nokton will set you back around $1500.00 according to Camera Quest's prices and this is pretty much the bottom of the food chain (price wise) for a set up like this.
Considering the average build quality of the two CV items and their limited potential compared to the X1 Pro and single lens ... two grand doesn't seem excessive to me!
richardhkirkando
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Keep in mind that it's an APS-C lens and the CV is designed for 135. It's easier to make a 1.4 normal lens than a 1.4 wide-angle.
I think it is high too, but it is competative with the higher end APS-C cameras, which I think is where this thing may qualify to be.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Cameraquest has been jacking prices of CV stuff through the roof in the last year too. The CV stuff isn't worth what they're charging now, not even close. Compare that Fuji to something like a Canon 5D Mark II, which is $2000 for a fullframe 21mp camera with incredible low-light performance, video, sensor dust cleaning, and a very wide range of lenses. Now, the Canon doesn't include a lens at that price, but the 50mm f1.8 Canon lens is about $100. Its a VERY sharp lens.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Nikon and Canon do make APS SLRs that cost about the same, but I suspect the cameras have better AF, better lowlight performance (high ISO), etc. People will buy these though. Most will sell it in 6 months and buy the next 'new thing'
bwcolor
Veteran
If you are buying in dollars .. and you are .. it might not be Cameraquest jacking the price. Of course, we have been a bit lucky in that other currencies also have self-inflicted inflation. It must be tough bringing a camera to market and trying to predict the future exchange rate.
Tim Gray
Well-known
True. At the same time I've had enough money to buy a decent digital camera for years but haven't because I want:
- reasonably compact - Leica M size is good enough, 5D is too big
- has a fast 21-28mm equivalent lens, f/2 or faster
- has a 50mm f/1.4 equivalent
As far as I know, this is the first one that meets those requirements. Sure, the M9 fits the bill, and I've already got the 28 and 50 mm lenses for it, but it's too expensive for me and has too many issues for me as well, particularly at that price.
I find this camera appealing. $2k is a lot of cash though. I'll wait at least until it's officially announced
Joe AC
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Does anyone know what the crop factor will be? Sorry if it's already been mentioned.
Thanks
Joe
Thanks
Joe
Chyn
Established
Crop is at 1.5x.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
True. At the same time I've had enough money to buy a decent digital camera for years but haven't because I want:
- reasonably compact - Leica M size is good enough, 5D is too big
- has a fast 21-28mm equivalent lens, f/2 or faster
- has a 50mm f/1.4 equivalent
As far as I know, this is the first one that meets those requirements. Sure, the M9 fits the bill, and I've already got the 28 and 50 mm lenses for it, but it's too expensive for me and has too many issues for me as well, particularly at that price.
I find this camera appealing. $2k is a lot of cash though. I'll wait at least until it's officially announced
I finally admitted that there was no way I could continue to follow the upgrade path for digital M. The M8 is a great camera and gives me RF satisfaction. However, the direction of digital M development isn't going where I want to be. I cashed out my top dollar M lenses. Have kept what I need for film and for the M8. I'd love the functionality of a D700, but would never ever carry that thing with me.
I've been waiting for two years from something like this from Fuji.
Fuji, CV, and Zeiss: Now, if any two of these three companies were to get together, that would be a game changer. As it is, the Fuji X-Pro will probably take care of most of my needs, except the preference for a mechanical rangefinder and its VF.
celluloidprop
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Basic APS SLRs are a pretty good deal - but the affordable, small prime lineups are severely lacking (Nikon has the 35mm f/1.8 for a 50mm FOV). The viewfinders are small and dark. Usable, but small and dark.
AF, sure - phase-detect is still better than contrast for most purposes. But if the X-Pro meets the Olympus/Sony/Panasonic standard it's good enough for non-action uses.
I don't see the current Canikon sensors being superior to the X100, much less an improved sensor in this, at higher ISOs.
Yes, it's going to be pricy, just like a NEX-7 and Zeiss 24mm. But that's the price folks are willing to pay for a built-in EVF and 'rangefinderesque' package. Hopefully Olympus will put a EVF in the E-P4 at a lower price point. I really like the Fuji package that we're seeing, but an Olympus w/EVF plus 20mm lens would also be nice.
koven
Well-known
I cant wait to spend my $$$ on this!
f6andBthere
Well-known
I think Chris just makes some interesting and valid comparisons and questions the price ... something we should all be doing a little more often IMO.
It balances out the starry eyed "Thanks so much Fuji I gotta have one of these!" posts!
It balances out the starry eyed "Thanks so much Fuji I gotta have one of these!" posts!
Tim Gray
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Pretty much where I am, but I never bought an M8. I'm thinking of paring down my M lens collection and loosely thinking of getting a 24 L for my 1V. I do like shooting SLR but it's so damn big... which is why this Fuji cam interests me. I wouldn't really be tempted to use M lenses on it either, since the system lens are the right focal lengths and speeds for me, at least for the wide and normal. I'd probably skip the 60mm and use one of my M 50's or the 75 as a telephoto. Of course, it'd be great if they had a 21/4.5 equivalent
anerjee
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That's good in a way, since I expect to buy a camera like this, used, in about a year from now, when the next new thing has arrived. I am years behind the frontier in digital photography.
Haha, I like Chris' work, but he is opinionated. I can respect that... of course we all diss that which we don't like. Don't let him fool you...he has a lot of nice equipment.