palec
Well-known
Fuji just announced the lens road map for X-Pro1:
(To supplement the 18mm F2.0, 35mm F1.4 and 60mm F2.4 Macro already announced)
2012:
14mm f/2.8
18-72mm f/4.0 with Image Stabilization
2013:
28mm f/2.8 pancake
23mm f/2.0
72-200mm f/4.0 Image Stabilization
12-24mm f/4.0 Image Stabilization
... looks GOOD![]()
I wonder how will be those zooms and 14mm wideangle presented in non-zooming optical viewfinder.
setyotomo
Established
X100 and x10 price drops about 10% in my local store 
christian.rudman
digital to analog convert
It feels like porn when you read the entire XP1 preview they posted:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmxpro1/
Drool. I'm going to have to fight an initial buy urge so hard. I sure hope my local rental place has a tester available...
With the FF announcements and no real image comparisons on the new sensor tech, I'm going to have to hold back for now. I can say I have zero interest in other mirrorless camera systems now. Especially after seeing the fujiguys hands on actually discuss the M-mount compatibility that they allowed for. Framelines for any focal length you can personally program in!!!!
Now to just see how they deal with manual focus confirmation in optical mode...
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmxpro1/
Drool. I'm going to have to fight an initial buy urge so hard. I sure hope my local rental place has a tester available...
With the FF announcements and no real image comparisons on the new sensor tech, I'm going to have to hold back for now. I can say I have zero interest in other mirrorless camera systems now. Especially after seeing the fujiguys hands on actually discuss the M-mount compatibility that they allowed for. Framelines for any focal length you can personally program in!!!!
Now to just see how they deal with manual focus confirmation in optical mode...
totifoto
Well-known
Fuji has some samples here.....
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/sample_images
It is not as WOW-ing as I hoped for, all that hype about some new sensor tec might have giving me more hopes. But still its not so bad.
This camera is good looking though
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/sample_images
It is not as WOW-ing as I hoped for, all that hype about some new sensor tec might have giving me more hopes. But still its not so bad.
This camera is good looking though
noimmunity
scratch my niche
Fuji has some samples here.....
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/sample_images
It is not as WOW-ing as I hoped for, all that hype about some new sensor tec might have giving me more hopes. But still its not so bad.
This camera is good looking though![]()
Yes, there are some issues, but: 1) the color is really good; 2) the new sensor pattern means that new algorithms are required to process the RAW. There could be a delay before we can get the most out of these files...
Yes, hopefully Fuji has already informed Adobe about how to code the RAW...so there won't be a delay.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
I doubt that will happen entirely as there are too many traditionalists and old farts like myself who enjoy the process from beginning to end and not just getting something that looks good on a computer screen or Flickr. Plus it's not just about 35mm which is, I think, the main thrust of your post even if unstated. There are a lot of LF and MF photographers who will still provide a market for film. But it will become more expensive and restricted in choice both as to size and type.
I will continue to use and love film until the end. But color film for general everyday use is too expensive for me. I am already using almost exclusively bulk film stock for B&W, with the regular splurge into Velvia. Since I still want to shoot color on an everyday basis, digital appeals to me there.
jtullar
Established
Seems like pretty quick operation and shutter noise is minimal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXL_YraX8dc#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXL_YraX8dc#!
uhoh7
Veteran
"now fuji only needs to make one in full frame!!!"
with a rangefinder in it, then Id be really happy!!!!!
Sounds really interesting though....![]()
+1
Here we have the best un-leica so far, crippled by lack of focusing aids.
In a camera with both a working EVF and OVF with mags, I don't understand why they are not projecting one to other like a patch or some varient thereof.
The nex EVF is actually extremely good for focusing with highspeed RF glass, and fast when you get used to it. I use the mag for high speed stuff, but the button makes it fast, and the EVF image is sharp and bright--with a diopter good to -4.25 vision.
But I doubt the 5n sensor is as good as the fuji with RF wides.
The day when we have a 2kUSD small FF EVIL body good with leica glass is getting closer.
Spyro
Well-known
I've never gotten the obsession with the actual rangefinder focusing mechanism.
I was drawn to Leica by the high quality of the lenses, solid build, and small form factor. Despite using Leicas for 20 years, I still only have a rudimentary understanding of how a rangefinder works.
The fact is, I don't care how it works. I just want the small form factor and high-quality output. That's enough for me.
Same. I dont even like rangefinder focusing, I'm into rangefinder cameras mainly for the lenses and the overall size of the system.
Contax G2 and Hexar AF are perfect for me.
dbarnes
Well-known
The more I learn about this thing, the more I like it! Fuji definitely was listening to feedback about the X100. (If you haven't watched this video yet, check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXL_YraX8dc#)
fireblade
Vincenzo.
X100 and x10 price drops about 10% in my local store![]()
over here the X100 went from $1149 to $999.
celluloidprop
Well-known
That video makes it look fantastic. I'm sure there are or will be complaints that Fuji used X100 buyers as market research guinea pigs, but that's a fantastic camera in and of itself. This looks better.
Focal Plane Circus
Member
And back again todayover here the X100 went from $1149 to $999.
Focal Plane Circus
Member
You called Henrys long before I did. Alvaro said I'm pre-order # 11. If Henrys only gets 10 X-Pro1's ... :bang:I just pre-ordered. I am 1st on the list at my local store
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Downtown Camera (also in Toronto) is taking pre-orders too at the same estimated prices as at Henrys - $1700 for the body, lenses $600-$650 each.
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Focal Plane Circus
Member
Fuji X-Pro1 photos from Hong Kong
Fuji X-Pro1 photos from Hong Kong
Has anyone posted Hugo Poon's X-Pro1 Flickr album?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26706225@N08/sets/72157628776530535/
This Hong Kong amateur photog has friends in high places at Fuji. He shot 1000+ images with a borrowed X-Pro1 prototype last December, when the rest of us were poring over "Fuji LX" rumors and squinting at fuzzy leaked prototype shots.
Fuji X-Pro1 photos from Hong Kong
Has anyone posted Hugo Poon's X-Pro1 Flickr album?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26706225@N08/sets/72157628776530535/
This Hong Kong amateur photog has friends in high places at Fuji. He shot 1000+ images with a borrowed X-Pro1 prototype last December, when the rest of us were poring over "Fuji LX" rumors and squinting at fuzzy leaked prototype shots.
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randomm
Well-known
I'm mildly irritated by the "upgrade" path that at least many dSLR users seem to have: from crop-factor camera to full frame sensor. Its almost given: it is assumed that if you're serious about photography, once you've "learned the ropes" with a crop camera, you'll want a full frame.
Yeah, I did that. Then gave up digital cameras for over a year altogether, and now am amazed by the quality of photos I get from a 4 year old Canon 450D @ 1600 ISO, after some noise cancellation in PP (obviously would've loved a digital RF, but hey, this Canon was 245 euros with 2 month warranty, try to beat that!). I still hate the finder though.
APS-C cameras are very capable in terms of image quality. Only negative thing is the fact that my Canon 35/2 LTM becomes a 56mm lens on one
Yeah, I did that. Then gave up digital cameras for over a year altogether, and now am amazed by the quality of photos I get from a 4 year old Canon 450D @ 1600 ISO, after some noise cancellation in PP (obviously would've loved a digital RF, but hey, this Canon was 245 euros with 2 month warranty, try to beat that!). I still hate the finder though.
APS-C cameras are very capable in terms of image quality. Only negative thing is the fact that my Canon 35/2 LTM becomes a 56mm lens on one
christian.rudman
digital to analog convert
Yes, hopefully Fuji has already informed Adobe about how to code the RAW...so there won't be a delay.
Quote from the dpreview.com hands on preview:
"Fujifilm says it will work closely with software suppliers such as Adobe to ensure that the X-Pro1 gets timely third-party RAW support."
Seems like they are on top of things already Robert.
(Check the page three Sensor and Lenses section)
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
Why get irritated by someone wanting something other than what you want ?
I'm a bit sympathetic to Tom's point, although for different reasons. The camera has been mooted for many months and everyone has had ample opportunity to advise Fuji of their particular and individual needs. Now the camera is out in the market place and people are carrying on as if Fuji should wave a magic wand and convert all the cameras in the pipeline and suddenly fulfil everyone's desires.
Like it or leave it - if you don't like it or are a definite non-purchaser then stop bleating! It's done - over. Fuji have spec'd the camera for reasons that seem sensible and achievable to them. If they don't match your particular agenda items then bad luck. It's not going to happen this time around.
Especially annoying are those who are still demanding a fully-featured, Leica M9 competitive offering that delivers everything everybody ever asked for at a price below $2000. Get a life - or start saving seriously. Maybe you'll have enough when a second-generation camera body appears in a year or two. For a start the US economy has tanked and the buying power of the dollar for imported products has shifted. It might recover given enough time and good economic management. I don't know what it is against the Yen but it's lost nearly 20% of value to the Australian dollar which is now above parity on most days - up from about 80+% a year or two back. Stop blaming Fuji! Same goes for Cosina.
Next, if you want a quality camera you'll need to pay for it, including the R&D and the fact that you're part of a niche RF market where volumes are going to be low and the overhead and setup costs for a new camera are spread across a smaller sales spectrum. Fuji does not have the market dominance of Nikon or Canon .
Fuji lenses cost $600-650? Golly gosh! Zeiss M-mount lenses run at around $800-900 for the budget end (about 1.5x) and most are $1200-1300 - double the Fuji prices. Voigtlander M-mount lenses run at about $600 up to $1300 or more for similar specs and good quality glass. About the same ballpark as Fuji. Nothing to criticise in Fuji's lens prices then.
Camera bodies? Try an M7 at $6500 or, perhaps more directly as it's digital, the M9 at $7000 to $8000 depending on model. Bit pricey? Would Zeiss quality be sufficient for you? The ZI body at $1600 is comparable in price to the Fuji. So what's to remark on there? Want something cheaper? The Bessa is under $800.
OK. The rant is over, but before you express your disappointment that the XPro-1 isn't affordable for you or doesn't have your favourite or most desired feature, reflect on how much it does offer and how it's shifted the game on RF design for the future. Your dream camera might just be a year or two away but dummy spitting (it hasn't got a phone built in - it's a deal breaker) and criticising negatively isn't doing anything for anybody - unless it makes you feel better.
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