Fujifilm X-Pro3 Thoughts?

...waiting for Neopan 1600

...waiting for Neopan 1600

I just watched the Live Summit and presentation of this camera (entertaining- thank you Out to Lunch for the link). I love that the designers not only make a sincere effort to stay in touch with their user-base but they also maintain the connection that strongly exists linking film cameras and film tradition. As well they integrate film as a medium and the desire for a more organic film look with digital, whether that really exists or not!

I rarely process Jpeg (these simulations), but love to play with the different simulations and providing the graphic on the back reinforces the the tradition that is a big part of the Fuji brand. If people are put off by that, they can certainly find another camera to use, or save on a new camera and continue to use their X Pro 2 (as may be the case for me).

While I often turn my screen of for it's distractions, the feel of a truly non-LCD back appeals to me and worth any hassle of dealing with the screen they have constructed here. I played with an M-D and loved the solidity of it. This one is a bit like the RD-1, a camera that I really enjoyed, where I can choose to open and make use of it.

All this said, I won't really know how I feel until I try it.
 
Archlich said:
We'll know next month...

Personally i won't hold my breath for it. Less hope, less disappointment...
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True, but another point is that X-Pro is updated every 4 years. To stick a 1 year old plus sensor in it might be a little too much really.
 
I moved from Fuji (XP1-XT1-XT2 and X100T) to Sony RX1Rii and A7Riii mainly because of:
1) Better sensor
2) Far superior (Eye) AF
3) IBIS
at the cost of Fuji's superior handling (sony vs Fuji = Computer vs Camera) and weight.
I contemplate to return to an XP3 if/when it offers significant (for me) sensor and
AF advantages over the XP2.
I don't care for titanium and would prefer an RD-1 like solution for the LCD screen over wat we know today the XP3 will offer.
My other wish is that the OVF has 3 magnification levels so we can use medium tele lenses like the 56/1.2 or the 50/2.0 better.
For me photogafing with Fuji is more fun, but at the end Sony brings the results . . . .
and I hope the XP3 can change this
 
To recapitulate: in their Live Summit, Fuji announced the X-Pro3 with:


- a titanium body;
- a larger grip;
- 'Dura' coating -10 times stronger than stainless steel;
- a newly designed larger hybrid VF with upgrades, both for the OVF, and the EVF:
* higher contrast
* higher resolution
* brighter
- enhanced color space;
- higher frame rates;
- faster auto focus;
- a newly designed back screen.

I don't suppose they would give it all away in this impromptu sneak preview and my guess is that by 23 October, they will announce an ungraded sensor.

I own and use all Epsons...the original R-D1, the R-D1s and the R-D1x. The flip screen on the first two models is nice but they were also prone to failure. Even though, I have not had problems myself, I do remember that many customers complained about defects. Perhaps this played a role in Fuji's decision to fabricate their new screen as they did.
 
If the X-Pro3 eye relief is increased to accommodate eye-glass-wearing photographers, I will look at one. The X-Pro2 16 mm eye point is too small for me, regardless of whether EVF or OVF is used. Oddly, my X100s has great relief in any viewfinder mode.
 
Reinvention said:
If the X-Pro3 eye relief is increased to accommodate eye-glass-wearing photographers, I will look at one. The X-Pro2 16 mm eye point is too small for me, regardless of whether EVF or OVF is used. Oddly, my X100s has great relief in any viewfinder mode.
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Hmmmm... I wear glasses and do not have any issues. However, the kind of glasses I wear are the type that sit high on my nose and that allows the lenses to be closer to my eyes. I remember when I was younger I had glasses that sat further down on my nose and the lenses were further away from my eyes.
 
UK prices (from Wex Photographic):
X-Pro3 body - black £1,699
Dura black £1,879
Dura silver £1,879

Leather case £89
Metal hand grip £119
 
Watching DPReview's hands-on:
- Fixed-magnification OVF doesn't work for my 18mm. Not the end of the world, but feels like an unfortunate downgrade.
- Rear LCD design is far less useful than the XT-2. A design that allowed full-time use of the main LCD, with the option of flipping over to the mini-LCD, would have been a much better idea.
- Rear 4-way buttons still missing. Touch screen is no real substitute, especially when it's usually hidden away.

I love my X-Pro2 far more than I ever thought I would, but if it dies I'll replace it with another X-Pro2; or more likely I'll pick up an X-T2/3 (my current X-T2 is a full-spectrum conversion) for Fuji glass and spend more time with my M-E.
 
ruby.monkey said:
- Rear 4-way buttons still missing. Touch screen is no real substitute, especially when it's usually hidden away.
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Well noted. It's really almost impossible to comprehend how anyone could think this design is even remotely good. Fuji really went off the rails here.
 
Ted Striker said:
Well noted. It's really almost impossible to comprehend how anyone could think this design is even remotely good. Fuji really went off the rails here.
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Because the design is focussed. Initially I thought leica was insane for their screen less MD. I've come around to thinking it was a genius design omission. Fuji are to be commended for this take on the same thing IMO.

The x-pro isn't a 'screen' camera. All of fuji's other cameras are. Perhaps an iPad would be more to your liking? I personally can't stand using a rear screen to take photos. Nothing shrivels my enthusiasm to shoot more.

LOVE what Fujifilm have done here, and I'll likely put my money down.
 
Some people will applaud, some people will scratch their heads, some people will throw their hands up in frustration.
 
gavinlg said:
Because the design is focussed. Initially I thought leica was insane for their screen less MD. I've come around to thinking it was a genius design omission. Fuji are to be commended for this take on the same thing IMO.

The x-pro isn't a 'screen' camera. All of fuji's other cameras are. Perhaps an iPad would be more to your liking? I personally can't stand using a rear screen to take photos. Nothing shrivels my enthusiasm to shoot more.

LOVE what Fujifilm have done here, and I'll likely put my money down.
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By taking away buttons, they've made the camera more screen-reliant. It's the worst of both worlds - more need to set options through the rear touch-screen, and poorer access to the screen. That's not focussed design, it's self-indulgent wankery. My contention has absolutely bugger-all to do with composing or reviewing photos on the rear LCD.

Hell, I'd rather have the four-way-plus-OK buttons of the X-Pro2 and a fixed mini-LCD on the rear (although I'd prefer that it be self-illuminated) than the X-Pro3 approach.
 
ruby.monkey said:
By taking away buttons, they've made the camera more screen-reliant. It's the worst of both worlds - more need to set options through the rear touch-screen, and poorer access to the screen. That's not focussed design, it's self-indulgent wankery. My contention has absolutely bugger-all to do with composing or reviewing photos on the rear LCD.

Hell, I'd rather have the four-way-plus-OK buttons of the X-Pro2 and a fixed mini-LCD on the rear (although I'd prefer that it be self-illuminated) than the X-Pro3 approach.
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Exactly. 100% correct. It's an appalling "solution" to real, every shot problems. An unmitigated ergonomic nightmare.
 
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