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i'm getting more and more bummed about that pancake...i hope it is a decent quality lens and not one that has been relegated to an entry level position...
FYI - June 25 rumor announcement
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the new x-m body is like an rx100 but with interchangable lenses...and bigger.
GaryLH
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Doubt it but we will know by 25th. After looking at the photos, I think they removed it to cut cost to get to a magic number for their low end camera line.. Decided they needed both a zoom and a fixed for that entry level camera when they announced.
Bummer
Gary
jsrockit
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I agree completely. Well, I hope it's entry level in construction and not in results.
GaryLH
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Well Joe
Not front jean pocket but maybe kaki style pants pocket w/ the pancake and xm1. 😛
Gary
Not front jean pocket but maybe kaki style pants pocket w/ the pancake and xm1. 😛
Gary
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i can see what they are up to...just a little pissed off that they did it with the pancake!
GaryLH
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I took a closer look at the 27 pancake. I can't find right now the proto picture. I am now wondering, during beta testing of proto, did they discover that the two rings (mf focus and aperture) were too close to each other... And decide for usability to not have the aperture or did they shrink the pancake more then the original prototype?
Gary
willie_901
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It is possible there will be CX and FX versions that share the same optics. There would be different price points for different market segments.
Otherwise, this means I will be waiting for Zeiss lenses from now on.
Otherwise, this means I will be waiting for Zeiss lenses from now on.
GaryLH
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U maybe right. But if the optics are just as good w/ either, the aperture dial approach is reasonable, and cost is lower, u may c many opt for the lower cost.
Before I saw this, I would have put myself on the pre-order immediately. Now I am going to wait and c in terms of people showing us what their result look like (the beta testers/bloggers) who have had this lens awhile.
Gary
Before I saw this, I would have put myself on the pre-order immediately. Now I am going to wait and c in terms of people showing us what their result look like (the beta testers/bloggers) who have had this lens awhile.
Gary
jsrockit
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I've attached a few pics. I'll be an early adopter of the lens if it's priced reasonably.
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GaryLH
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It looks pretty close to same.. Maybe it was usability issue --> too close to each other more than a cost one initially. It will be interesting to hear what comes out in the blogs and press conferences.
Thanks
Gary
Thanks
Gary
GaryLH
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Size comparison - smaller in height as well as width
Size comparison - smaller in height as well as width
http://www.fujirumors.com/x-m1-vs-x-e1-vs-x-pro1-size-comparison/
Gary
Size comparison - smaller in height as well as width
http://www.fujirumors.com/x-m1-vs-x-e1-vs-x-pro1-size-comparison/
Gary
GaryLH
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I found a better close up of the prototype. The proto used a 58mm filter and the one ring released is a 39.. They really did a lot of redesign.. Got to much lighter then..
http://translate.google.com/transla...p://digicame-info.com/2013/06/xf27mm-f28.html
Gary
http://translate.google.com/transla...p://digicame-info.com/2013/06/xf27mm-f28.html
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it's still marked as an xf lens...that's a good sign.
daveleo
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39mm is an extremely small filter size !
That is really small. And that it's 21mm smaller than the prototype lens - as Kelly
Bundy would say "The mind wobbles".
That is really small. And that it's 21mm smaller than the prototype lens - as Kelly
Bundy would say "The mind wobbles".
GaryLH
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39mm filter is standard size for Leica in the old days though. Hopefully lighter means faster focus (less mass inertia).
Gary
Gary
GaryLH
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The 16-50 zoom looks about same size as the 18-55..
This pretty well rounds out the what maybe the most used zooms (non-pro) for those coming over from the dslr side, when u include the upcoming super wide zoom on the roadmap.
Gary
This pretty well rounds out the what maybe the most used zooms (non-pro) for those coming over from the dslr side, when u include the upcoming super wide zoom on the roadmap.
Gary
corposant
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Pancake lenses are not complicated design-wise yet can still be high performance.
Not a perfect comparison, but think about all the nifty-fifties - cheap with pretty impressive performance. Now imagine how much smaller those lenses could be if 1. you didn't have to look through them with an optical viewfinder and 2. make it 2-stops slower. It might look something like... this?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=885401&is=REG&Q=&A=details
or this?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/870179-REG/Canon_40mm_f_2_8_EF_Pancake.html
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i'd be happy if it was $149...like the canon 40!!
David_Manning
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Where the heck is the 23/1.4?!
