FYI - June 25 rumor announcement

i'm getting more and more bummed about that pancake...i hope it is a decent quality lens and not one that has been relegated to an entry level position...
 
jsrockit said:
I guess I'll deal with the pancake not having an aperture ring, but it better not be priced at $600.
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Doubt it but we will know by 25th. After looking at the photos, I think they removed it to cut cost to get to a magic number for their low end camera line.. Decided they needed both a zoom and a fixed for that entry level camera when they announced.

Bummer
Gary
 
GaryLH said:
Doubt it but we will know by 25th. After looking at the photos, I think they removed it to cut cost to get to a magic number for their low end camera line.. Decided they needed both a zoom and a fixed for that entry level camera when they announced.
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I agree completely. Well, I hope it's entry level in construction and not in results.
 
jsrockit said:
I agree completely. Well, I hope it's entry level in construction and not in results.
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I took a closer look at the 27 pancake. I can't find right now the proto picture. I am now wondering, during beta testing of proto, did they discover that the two rings (mf focus and aperture) were too close to each other... And decide for usability to not have the aperture or did they shrink the pancake more then the original prototype?

Gary
 
It is possible there will be CX and FX versions that share the same optics. There would be different price points for different market segments.

Otherwise, this means I will be waiting for Zeiss lenses from now on.
 
U maybe right. But if the optics are just as good w/ either, the aperture dial approach is reasonable, and cost is lower, u may c many opt for the lower cost.

Before I saw this, I would have put myself on the pre-order immediately. Now I am going to wait and c in terms of people showing us what their result look like (the beta testers/bloggers) who have had this lens awhile.

Gary
 
GaryLH said:
I took a closer look at the 27 pancake. I can't find right now the proto picture. I am now wondering, during beta testing of proto, did they discover that the two rings (mf focus and aperture) were too close to each other... And decide for usability to not have the aperture or did they shrink the pancake more then the original prototype?

Gary
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I've attached a few pics. I'll be an early adopter of the lens if it's priced reasonably.
 

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It looks pretty close to same.. Maybe it was usability issue --> too close to each other more than a cost one initially. It will be interesting to hear what comes out in the blogs and press conferences.

Thanks
Gary
 
39mm is an extremely small filter size !
That is really small. And that it's 21mm smaller than the prototype lens - as Kelly
Bundy would say "The mind wobbles".
 
39mm filter is standard size for Leica in the old days though. Hopefully lighter means faster focus (less mass inertia).

Gary
 
The 16-50 zoom looks about same size as the 18-55..

This pretty well rounds out the what maybe the most used zooms (non-pro) for those coming over from the dslr side, when u include the upcoming super wide zoom on the roadmap.

Gary
 
jsrockit said:
I agree completely. Well, I hope it's entry level in construction and not in results.
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Pancake lenses are not complicated design-wise yet can still be high performance.

Not a perfect comparison, but think about all the nifty-fifties - cheap with pretty impressive performance. Now imagine how much smaller those lenses could be if 1. you didn't have to look through them with an optical viewfinder and 2. make it 2-stops slower. It might look something like... this?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=885401&is=REG&Q=&A=details

or this?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/870179-REG/Canon_40mm_f_2_8_EF_Pancake.html
 
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