I miss my T4, looking for a new compact

[btgc]

From personal experience, I have yet to use a Pentax compact of any flavor that had a less than excellent lens.

I have Pentax 928, similar concept to Rollei Prego AF 90 and lens is as good (but I haven't shot color in 928 so I judge by tones and sharpness). I wonder why Rollei didn't put diopter adjustment on flagship AF 90 like Pentax did on 928???

I'll take any of this two to trip, instead of digital. Useful range, don't depend on charger and deliver picture every time you release shutter!

 

[jaimiepeeters]

Yeah I was wondering about that. Why would one camera of a line, e.g. Espio, be good and the others less.

I did see a review of the Mju 1 vs the Mju 2. The lens was way sharper on the 2 but that made sense. It would make less sense to me that a similar date release (are they) in the Espio line are different in lens quality.

 

[muf]

I'll take any of this two to trip, instead of digital. Useful range, don't depend on charger and deliver picture every time you release shutter!

I'll second that with regards the Rollei. Never tried the 928 so can't comment. I would also put the Canon Sureshot Classic 120 in the bracket of useful range and deliver on every exposure.

Paul

 

[btgc]

I would also put the Canon Sureshot Classic 120 in the bracket of useful range and deliver on every exposure.

While we are on the wave, I'll add to bracket Olympus Mju V aka Mju Metal aka Stylus Select 105, crazy good camera if daylight is ones target.

Just put on flickr two images from it. TBH, it makes Rollei 90 bulky mom to leave at home 🙂 Well, no, they all are very good AE compacts. But Mju V has much better buttons than praised model with 35/2.8 lens, I used spot meter for almost all shots just because it's so easy to press one slightly protruding button than simultaneously press two tiny deep seated buttons which is painfully slow and without garantee.

 

[muf]

Yep, the spot metering is 'hidden' on the mjuII if you don't read the manual. My dad had one for two years and I told him that I mostly used the spot metering and he was like "spot metering?". I showed him and he was shocked and a little peed off tbh. The classic 120 has spot metering as an option on the mode dial. I like how you can have a personal setting that is to your liking, for example spot metering with no flash. The battery cover is about the worse on any compact that I've laid eyes on.

Paul

 

[River Dog]

Yep, the spot metering is 'hidden' on the mjuII if you don't read the manual.

As far as I can tell, it is a spot exposure and focus hold function, is that correct? I took mine for a run today and the film is drying at the moment. If there are any half decent shots I'll post them here.

It is a good little street camera, relatively quick and very compact. No-one noticed me snapping away. Not the quietest though.

I'll run the Prego 90 soon as a comparison. It arrived this morning, but it is not a compact by any measure against the mju-ii. Then I have a Canon AF35M to test out.

In the current climate, I am only buying cheapos. Good thread, keep the information coming.

 

[btgc]

Yep, the spot metering is 'hidden' on the mjuII if you don't read the manual.

Manual is one thing, I were trying to say it's physically not easy turn on spot metering. Why not put dedicated button? I were happy to do it at first try, normally it took two or more tries....

 

[Greyscale]

A couple of other very nice Canon Sure Shot zooms to consider are 115U and the Z135


Canon Sure Shot Z135 by Greyscale3, on Flickr

Set http://www.flickr.com/photos/greyscale3/sets/72157625302786573/


Canon Sure Shot 115u by Greyscale3, on Flickr

Set http://www.flickr.com/photos/greyscale3/sets/72157627600366710/

The "Z" series Sure Shots are exceptionally well built with a metal body and a feature set similar to the Prego 90, but not quite as wide. Spot metering can be turned on via a dial on the camera back, or can be set as camera default.

The "U" series is much more compact, similar in size to the Konica Lexio 70. Not as feature-rich, but with a lens similar in characteristics to the Classic 120.

 

[jaimiepeeters]

So.. next to the Espio AF zoom full macro I order this today and will get it in the next few days.

 

[River Dog]

From me to mju

From me to mju

I was enjoying this thread so much that I ran out a newly acquired mju-ii today, loaded with Neopan Acros 100. It encouraged me to get in closer than usual and I used the flash a lot. It's such an unassuming camera that no-one was at all bothered.

The guy tying his shoelace was a very quick grab and it nailed it. Forgive the number of shots, but I couldn't decide between them.

 

[muf]

I'll run the Prego 90 soon as a comparison. It arrived this morning, but it is not a compact by any measure against the mju-ii.

Yeah, the Prego 90 is not compact. It does have a lot of useful options and the lens is phenomenal for a zoom. I've had two mjuII's and sold both. Nice enough camera but not as great as some seem to think. For similar size, try the Nikon AF600 which IMHO is superior to the mjuII.

Paul

 

[paulfish4570]

i went to tennessee today and went through the last of my father's effects. his smith and wesson model 10 is the most precious of his possessions that is now mine. also in the box was a nikon fun-touch 2 with 34mm/f4.5 lens, built-in flash, and AF. i'm gonnas guess the lens is a glass triplet. anyhow, it fired right up with a couple of fresh AAs. i popped in one of three very expired rolls of kodak gold 200 that i also found in the box, and made some silly family snaps. this is s pretty graceful plastic cam, but bigger than the stylus epic. looking forward to the pics in a couple of days.

 

[btgc]

I was enjoying this thread so much that I ran out a newly acquired mju-ii today, loaded with Neopan Acros 100. It encouraged me to get in closer than usual and I used the flash a lot. It's such an unassuming camera that no-one was at all bothered.

I've noted pictures come out good to outstanding when one enjoys himself and camera. Be it great camera but there's no connection with it - and pictures are average to crap. From yours I see you really enjoyed it 🙂 Mju II washed mouth X100 here...

 

[Greyscale]

I have Pentax 928, similar concept to Rollei Prego AF 90 and lens is as good (but I haven't shot color in 928 so I judge by tones and sharpness) ...

I've been on the lookout for an Espio 928 on eBay. They never show up from US sellers on eBay, and international shipping makes them too expensive to consider.

After reading this, and several of my own posts in this thread regarding Espio/IQZoom sameness, it finally dawned on me to search for IQZoom 928, its American doppelganger. Duh. Half a dozen hits, with BIN prices lower than completed auction prices for Asian/European counterpart.

No such luck with the Espio mini/UC-1, though. I guess that cat is already out of the bag.

 

[jaimiepeeters]

The XA2 has zone focus I read, how can it's focus be so tack sharp then ??

 

[btgc]

The XA2 has zone focus I read, how can it's focus be so tack sharp then ??

Either adjust camera-subject distance or use intermediate positions of lever for fine tuning. And help camera with faster film to bias small apertures. And, as with other cameras, if subject is distant, FOV is large; if subject is close - DOF tends to be shallower.

But slow film doesn't mean unsharp.


Café Rouge by mm35exp36, on Flickr

 

[jaimiepeeters]

Either adjust camera-subject distance or use intermediate positions of lever for fine tuning. And help camera with faster film to bias small apertures. And, as with other cameras, if subject is distant, FOV is large; if subject is close - DOF tends to be shallower.

But slow film doesn't mean unsharp.


Café Rouge by mm35exp36, on Flickr

Can you see the focus in the viewfinder ?

 

[stillshunter]

Hi guys

Really a bit sad that I had to sell my Yashica T4 which was in mint condition. Trying to find another but in the meanwhile I was wondering if some of you have great experience with other compact camera's.

I prefer full automatic, with flash and comparable to the T4 in image quality.

Fuji Klasse.
I went the S (the 38mm is very comfortable) - just sold it and it arrived in Canada last week. If I didn't go the Leica M, I would have married it with the wider a W (28mm).

You can go full auto, or aperture-priority exposure and manual (scale/snap) focus. Marry this with manual ISO and exposure compensation at your finger tips and, hey, it's a complete package.

Honestly the IQ and UI is simply brilliant.


sunset on lichen by stillshunter, on Flickr


Dougal by stillshunter, on Flickr

 

[David Hughes]

Manual is one thing, I were trying to say it's physically not easy turn on spot metering. Why not put dedicated button? I were happy to do it at first try, normally it took two or more tries....

Hi,

Like the spot button on the back of the 35SP.

Now that ought to be on this list although it's older, bigger, no zoom and yet...

Regards, David

 

[David Hughes]

The XA2 has zone focus I read, how can it's focus be so tack sharp then ??

Hi,

Simple answer, it's very easy to use.

Every time you shut the cover it resets to the medium/groups position. So you know where you are when you start again. The little lever is perfectly positioned by your middle finger (right hand) push down for portrait sort of distances and up for landscapes. Once you've done it a few times it works without you thinking. (Like your fingers know your PIN's.)

Have a search for instruction manuals and you'll see it all before buying, btw. And talking of buying, the XA2 and mju-I are more or less guaranteed to appear in flea markets and charity shops at less than the price of a cup of coffee. Both overshadowed by others in the range.

Regards, David