I see signs of a shutter curtain damage

also, look for bubbling of the rubber on the side facing the lens. I tried burning a curtain a while back and it would smoke and the texture would go all bubble-like before it burned. I'm not sure all burnt shutters will show that though.

good luck...
 
Check both curtains, Raid. Advance the shutter and check. Then release and check again. It should be somewhere.

If the sun was strong, it might be a pinhole, it should be! If it were a big hole, the spot would have been much larger. You may need to point the camera at a very bright and steady source like a halogen ceiling light, and move it around a bit while looking at it from different angles.
 
dragunov said:
also, look for bubbling of the rubber on the side facing the lens. I tried burning a curtain a while back and it would smoke and the texture would go all bubble-like before it burned. I'm not sure all burnt shutters will show that though.

good luck...
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I will test this aspect too when I get home tonight.
Thanks for the tip.
 
buzzardkid said:
Check both curtains, Raid. Advance the shutter and check. Then release and check again. It should be somewhere.

If the sun was strong, it might be a pinhole, it should be! If it were a big hole, the spot would have been much larger. You may need to point the camera at a very bright and steady source like a halogen ceiling light, and move it around a bit while looking at it from different angles.
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The pinholes may be so small that in my quick testing I was unable to see them. I held a strong light pointed at the curtain while I looked from the other side, This was done in a dark room. I saw only the black cloth and not light at all. Maybe I should point the camera at the wall to see if I see any light.

I will try also your suggested method, Johan.
Thanks.
 
I will then inspect the Canon P's too.
This is a pain ....

Thanks, Fred and Roland.
To some degree, I hope it is a P and not a Leica.

I never leave any camera on a picnic table or anywhere else in the sun. I carry them like little babies ... very carefully.
 
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Here's two pictures, showing how a small pinhole (Leica M6) may look like.

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I will use a magnifying glass tonight to "scan" all shutter curtains. Thanks for taking the time to post the two pics.
 
It may have been a Canon P with its first test roll. I hope it is, but I don't know how to find a pinhole in a metal shutter curtain.
 
It is the olive green Canon P that I bought from Japan that has the small hole in the shutter curtain. I have to especially thank Fred for pointing out that not only cloth shutter curtains can get punctured.

This is a great relief. The Leica M3 and M6 and Standard are fine. I will get some liquid watachmacallit liquid from Home Depot and will use a tooth pick.
 
Hi Raid,

Take a second look at your ruined film and tranfer the position of the star on the frame window, to indicate you where to precisely look at.
 
goodtimes said:
Hi Raid,

Take a second look at your ruined film and tranfer the position of the star on the frame window, to indicate you where to precisely look at.
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Hi,
I have done this, and I was able to find the hole in the shutter curtain.It is more a tear than a hole.
 
Ducky said:
Have you considered a processing error, possibly a spec of dust in the processors system?
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This was the first thing that came to my mind, hoping to avoid any costlt repairs. It is a shiny part, which indicates a burning into the negative.
 
Now I am not sure if it is the Canon P.
This is very frustrating.
I could take a roll of film and pass it in sections through several cameras.
 
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