I see signs of a shutter curtain damage

[raid]

My only cloth shutter curtained camera left is the Standard Leica.

 

[mooge]

also, look for bubbling of the rubber on the side facing the lens. I tried burning a curtain a while back and it would smoke and the texture would go all bubble-like before it burned. I'm not sure all burnt shutters will show that though.

good luck...

 

[johannielscom]

Check both curtains, Raid. Advance the shutter and check. Then release and check again. It should be somewhere.

If the sun was strong, it might be a pinhole, it should be! If it were a big hole, the spot would have been much larger. You may need to point the camera at a very bright and steady source like a halogen ceiling light, and move it around a bit while looking at it from different angles.

 

[raid]

also, look for bubbling of the rubber on the side facing the lens. I tried burning a curtain a while back and it would smoke and the texture would go all bubble-like before it burned. I'm not sure all burnt shutters will show that though.

good luck...

I will test this aspect too when I get home tonight.
Thanks for the tip.

 

[raid]

Check both curtains, Raid. Advance the shutter and check. Then release and check again. It should be somewhere.

If the sun was strong, it might be a pinhole, it should be! If it were a big hole, the spot would have been much larger. You may need to point the camera at a very bright and steady source like a halogen ceiling light, and move it around a bit while looking at it from different angles.

The pinholes may be so small that in my quick testing I was unable to see them. I held a strong light pointed at the curtain while I looked from the other side, This was done in a dark room. I saw only the black cloth and not light at all. Maybe I should point the camera at the wall to see if I see any light.

I will try also your suggested method, Johan.
Thanks.

 

[ferider]

Sorry, Raid.

Like Fred said, it could also be the Canons. And do check both curtains.

Roland.

 

[raid]

I will then inspect the Canon P's too.
This is a pain ....

Thanks, Fred and Roland.
To some degree, I hope it is a P and not a Leica.

I never leave any camera on a picnic table or anywhere else in the sun. I carry them like little babies ... very carefully.

 

[mudride]

Here's two pictures, showing how a small pinhole (Leica M6) may look like.

 

[raid]

I will use a magnifying glass tonight to "scan" all shutter curtains. Thanks for taking the time to post the two pics.

 

[raid]

It may have been a Canon P with its first test roll. I hope it is, but I don't know how to find a pinhole in a metal shutter curtain.

 

[raid]

It is the olive green Canon P that I bought from Japan that has the small hole in the shutter curtain. I have to especially thank Fred for pointing out that not only cloth shutter curtains can get punctured.

This is a great relief. The Leica M3 and M6 and Standard are fine. I will get some liquid watachmacallit liquid from Home Depot and will use a tooth pick.

 

[raid]

I will just do this. I will get liquid electric tape.

 

[raid]

So you prefer a flat black latex paint instead?

 

[_goodtimez]

Hi Raid,

Take a second look at your ruined film and tranfer the position of the star on the frame window, to indicate you where to precisely look at.

 

[Ducky]

Have you considered a processing error, possibly a spec of dust in the processors system?

 

[raid]

Hi Raid,

Take a second look at your ruined film and tranfer the position of the star on the frame window, to indicate you where to precisely look at.

Hi,
I have done this, and I was able to find the hole in the shutter curtain.It is more a tear than a hole.

 

[raid]

Have you considered a processing error, possibly a spec of dust in the processors system?

This was the first thing that came to my mind, hoping to avoid any costlt repairs. It is a shiny part, which indicates a burning into the negative.

 

[raid]

I will drive to a hardware store in a few minutes.
Thanks.

 

[raid]

Now I am not sure if it is the Canon P.
This is very frustrating.
I could take a roll of film and pass it in sections through several cameras.

 

[paulfish4570]

Bummer, Raid. I hope you get things analyzed and solved quickly ...