GaryLH
Veteran
Since the so called leaked press release says it depends on the phase detection cells on the sensor, I doubt that this can be ported to xp1/xe1.
On the other hand I would be happy w/ focus peaking on xp1/xe1.
Now bring that xp2 to market Fuji.
Gary
Snowbuzz
Well-known
So, do I have to turn the lens-ring 20 times through 360 degrees to manually focus that split image? 
mep
Established
GaryLH
Veteran
If it wasn't for the fact my eye is on the xp2 as a second body... This x100s announcement would have been a major gas attack......
Gary
Gary
DougFord
on the good foot
Speed and accuracy between the use of autofocus, which relies on both cdaf and pdaf as opposed to manual split screen focusing, which apparently relies on pd pixels only, should be an interesting test.
It seems to me that at the time which manual focusing via split screen may be most desirable, during low light conditions, this is where the feature may become less accurate.
I wonder if the phase detection pixels increase the accuracy of the focus peaking feature as well?
It seems to me that at the time which manual focusing via split screen may be most desirable, during low light conditions, this is where the feature may become less accurate.
I wonder if the phase detection pixels increase the accuracy of the focus peaking feature as well?
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
1. ACR/Lightroom do show some artifacts using some sharpening settings, but even using ACR/Lightroom, whole-image quality from the 16 Mpix XTRANS sensor is still better than the output from the 12 Mpix X-100 sensor, both because of higher pixel count and because there's no antialiasing filter on the XTRANS sensor.
2. Beta users (I am one of them) of Capture One Pro report that the (overblown) problems with ACR/Lightroom are essentially solved by the engineers at Phase One. Image quality is spectacular.
3. A new release of ACR/Lightroom is due soon, and it's entirely reasonable to expect that what Phase One can do, so can Adobe.
In other words, there's no longer much reason to be "wary" of the XTRANS sensor architecture.
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lam
Well-known
Anyone following the live-gas, i mean blog..?
http://live.cnet.com/Event/CES_2013_Fujifilm_press_conference_live_blog
http://live.cnet.com/Event/CES_2013_Fujifilm_press_conference_live_blog
lam
Well-known
$1299.95 for X100s; $599.95 for X20
GGAG GGAS ATTACKK!!!!!!11
Pretty neat the X20 will have readout in the VF too.
GGAG GGAS ATTACKK!!!!!!11
Pretty neat the X20 will have readout in the VF too.
f16sunshine
Moderator
bwcolor
Veteran
If they mentioned a release date, I missed it>
Do we have a release date?
Do we have a release date?
bwcolor
Veteran
I thought that with the removal of the AA filter that you didn't need to sharpen.. ?
chambrenoire
Well-known
Mid February I think? (Source: http://www.fujirumors.com/specs-of-all-new-fuji-compacts-x100s-x20-xp60-s8200/)
GaryLH
Veteran
So someone please correct me here...
I have been presuming that there are two different sharpness related factors that need to be correct post processing
- the AA filter
- the Bayer or xtran color matrix
the advantage of the foveon is that it does not have either but is not good at high iso... Stay within 400 iso and the results are impressive. The new generation of sensor technology from Fuji, Nikon, Sony, and Canon beat it by a country mile in terms of high iso performance.
Gary
gho
Well-known
Yes, yes, yes! But the crucial point is: how responsive is the focusing system to the movements of the manual focus ring? Ideally it would be a 1:1 translation including the acceleration. And if not in macro mode, maybe just a 45 degrees turn on a 35 mm equivalent lens from infinity to close focus (e.g. 0.7 m), so that one does not have to change the grip too much.
If this system does not need any information from the lens and works by just analyzing the digital image, than this is big news for legacy lens users, if e.g. integrated into cameras such as the X-E1. Add full frame and voilà!
In theory it would be nice, if one could customize the size of the focusing field (smaller, maybe just a square of two bars in the centre).
Just one note why I am a big proponent of decent manual focusing systems in digital cameras. If I am using auto focus, I have to wait until the camera has focused. That is interrupting the flow. If I am focusing myself, I am in charge and the camera is more an extension of my (literary) body movements. Ideally the system is responsive to my actions and I get decent visual feedback of the focus point, such as in a split prism or rangefinder.
GaryLH
Veteran
Sometime last year, one of the rumor sites posted a patent from Fuji about how to detect the focal length of a lens such as a old legacy lens w/o need for user input, if I remember correctly. Coupled with the digital rf that was announced things get really interesting for what maybe in store for xp2.
Gary
Gary
danielsterno
making soup from mud
DPR: First look: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilm-x100s/
KM-25
Well-known
I'm pre-ordered. The orginal X100 has been an *extremely* valuable tool in my political / corporate work, these upgrades sound great. I also hope the sensor is as good or better than the current model, I think I have shot all of 10 frames in raw the out of camera jpegs are so good.
willie_901
Veteran
The term sharpening is ambiguous.
Bruse Fraser wrote an entire book about sharpening in digital imaging.
Anytime you convert a continuous state of nature into discrete data there are errors. Every rendering model is flawed. Sharpening is one way to minimize these flaws.
AA filters have positive and negative effects. Their negative effects can be reduced by various methods that are generically called sharpening.
I have no idea how the myth started that rendering images from Bayer sensors without AA filters does not require some sort of fine tuning (sharpening) to optimize the images perceived quality.
gavinlg
Veteran
WOW.
From the Dpreview site as well, there are some substantial improvements over the x100. I think I'm going to have to step up to this. The X-trans sensor alone makes it worth it over the x100's bayer.
Check out the 'under the hood' improvements here: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilm-x100s/2
Most impressive to me are the switching of the AF mode button (serious operability improvement), Minimum shooting distance using OVF reduced to 50cm (from 80cm on X100), Battery chamber redesigned to prevent wrong-way-round insertion, Camera retains (as opposed to resets) all settings after firmware update, Improved support for SD cards used with Apple computers, Strap lugs are double-plated for increased durability.
Literally every single little thing that could have been improved in the interface has been improved. I'm so impressed.
gho
Well-known
Cool! I just read about the phase detection sensor. If I interpret that correctly, the split image focus indicator does not depend on information transmitted by the lens but only on the image projected onto the sensor.