zsas
Established
I think the history of the camera is important, to some, since some are collectors and others are looking for a user compact camera; reconciling those differences is relevant. See what I mean? For some it might matter, others not so much. But we all come to the table with our own baggage, lets hope when we sit down we are courteous and kind, but some lack civility...
Ming Rider
Film, the next evolution.
The Leica CL is of course a Leica.
The Leitz Minolta CL...is not.![]()
Thanks, you've single handedly knocked 50% off of what I paid for my Leitz Minolta CL.
P.S. Last time I looked, 'LEICA' stood for 'LEItz CAmera'.
Ming Rider
Film, the next evolution.
Here is the man who just had to tell me that my camera was not a leica camera!
Leica or not, he would still struggle to remove it from his rear end.
Pablito
coco frío
Film dino
David Chong
I've come here for an argument.
No you haven't.
Yes I have. And simply disagreeing with me isn't an argument.
Yes it is.
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M: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
At least you don't have to pay for this argument!
MISH
Well-known
If I am looking to buy they are not
Now that I have purchased one it is
my other Leica cameras don't seem to mind
I love shooting with it ....... it suits my needs
(my Canadian lens seems to like it too)
Now that I have purchased one it is
my other Leica cameras don't seem to mind
I love shooting with it ....... it suits my needs
(my Canadian lens seems to like it too)
Nothing built in Canada was ever really Leica...was it? 
Wetzlar forever. Not even Solms counts.

Wetzlar forever. Not even Solms counts.
For some, it's a matter of status. And for some, seeing someone proudly displaying a LEICA that the viewer knows was manufactured by (and even sold as) Minolta, they know how to take that someone down a notch.Leica or not i just wondered why people cares about the brand on the camera. And why (in my case) people with Leica M just have to point it out! I have a Leica M, but it is not as compact as my CL so it is my back-up.
John Bragg
Well-known
The difference between knowledge and wisdom. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit And not a vegetable. Wisdom is not including it in a fruit salad ! "
Ming Rider
Film, the next evolution.
The difference between knowledge and wisdom. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit And not a vegetable. Wisdom is not including it in a fruit salad ! "
So I may have bought a rotten tomato?
John Bragg
Well-known
So I may have bought a rotten tomato?![]()
Not so. I was merely implying that knowledge alone is useless unless we apply it wisely. The old man dissing the CL as a non Leica falls in this camp.
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
i used to think the CL wasn't a real Leica,
until I had a M5, now I am not so sure.
There are many similarities between the
M5 and CL.
raytoei
until I had a M5, now I am not so sure.
There are many similarities between the
M5 and CL.
raytoei
Ming Rider
Film, the next evolution.
Not so. I was merely implying that knowledge alone is useless unless we apply it wisely. The old man dissing the CL as a non Leica falls in this camp.![]()
I know. Just a jest.
Bob Michaels
nobody special
OK, forget the philosophical. Let us focus on the practical.
Do the official rules allow one to wear their Leica hat and T-shirt while photographing with a CL?
Do the official rules allow one to wear their Leica hat and T-shirt while photographing with a CL?
Yes, not even Solms counts by the most pure of the purists.
mfogiel
Veteran
This one is a Leica M9, why don't you buy it?
http://www.redbubble.com/people/ben...t&print_location=front&size=medium&style=mens
http://www.redbubble.com/people/ben...t&print_location=front&size=medium&style=mens
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
OK, forget the philosophical. Let us focus on the practical.
Do the official rules allow one to wear their Leica hat and T-shirt while photographing with a CL?
To play it safe I usually wear my Rangefinder Forum hat when out with the CL.
haempe
Well-known
The CL is a product of the Leica company, yes.
But as they put aside much of the formative product-philosophy during construction it's in many aspects not a true Leica...
what not necessary means it's a bad camera!
And I believe, the guys of Leica would say it similar...
But as they put aside much of the formative product-philosophy during construction it's in many aspects not a true Leica...
what not necessary means it's a bad camera!
And I believe, the guys of Leica would say it similar...
rbsinto
Well-known
Here is the man who just had to tell me that my camera was not a leica camera!
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I suppose now that you have outed this Poor Soul by posting his photo that he has gone into hiding, fearing for his life at the hands of all the Leicavolk who were insulted by his disgusting statement.
Ming Rider
Film, the next evolution.
To play it safe I usually wear my Rangefinder Forum hat when out with the CL.
There's an RFF Hat ??
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