It was not meant to be (film tore off inside the SWC)

robert blu said:
Ohhh Raid! It's ok, things happen sometimes sand if something has to go wrong it will in the absolute special moment! But it's important you had an interesting talk with an interesting man, even if sometimes controversial.

Next time you'll get a better picture!

robert
Click to expand...

You are right, Robert. I had my talk with him. I was not after some snapshots as I already took those in last April. I wanted a special portrait.
When Chomsky saw the SWC, he said "Oh, you are a real photographer!"
 
mcfingon said:
Ouch! My sympathy for that one Raid. I've had a few problems with videotapes and film over the years, but it seems to be that Murphy's Law applies that there's more likely be a problem with a less repeatable event. When I was shooting weddings on film, I rotated four different camera bodies (2 x 35, 2 x 120) on the day to try to prevent Murphy from biting.
Click to expand...

It was a clear Murphy's Law Day for me. I will be more careful next time.
 
mfogiel said:
Pity Raid, but that's life. Any camera can fail. I find a Rolleiflex a bit more foolproof than Hasselblad in terms of film loading and advance.
As to Mr Chomsky - an interesting individual for sure.
I am sort of sensing, that his leftist views are genetically determined. It is the same in case of physicists who claim to believe in god, only that they tend to lean to the right. There is a good hint about this question in this speech about the politics of disgust:
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_pizarro_the_strange_politics_of_disgust?language=en
Last time I saw an interview with Mr. Chomsky, he said that the only bright spots politically on our planet were in Brazil, Argentina and Venezuela. Well ... have you been spotting the recent events there? It is unlikely Mr. Chomsky is not intelligent, but his intelligence seems to be highly specialised.
Click to expand...


Your comment to me in another thread was to forget about photography and to focus on the interview. Your words came to me then.
 
With the Hasselblad magazine, Raid, was the left hand side silver to red film use indicator working? That is meant to show if film is actually transporting.
 
Now, thinking about it, I am unsure. It may have been black and not red. The half moon indicator showed red, though.
 
This A12 back probably needs a good service. The geartrains must be dry and sticky. Or worn. Or rusty. I have seen this.

This is why, like Marek, I merely favour the Rolleiflex over the Hassy.

Of course there is no Biogon 38mm eq. in the Rolleiflex range.
 
The A12 back works well this morning. I tried out my SWC with a new roll of film, and so far, it looks good to me.
 
When a film tears off, it's because the take-off spool can't turn. Not too sure about the Hassy (don't have mine any longer) but on the Rolleiflex, it's totally passive. The only reason why it couldn't turn is a misfit while loading, which is a possible goof on the Rolleiflex (take-off spool toughly installed with flange of the spool in front of the camera shaft, instead of camera shaft inside the spool cross) but probably not on the Hassy IIRC.
 
Sorry about your dilemma with the film Raid. I know you have been looking forward to your meeting for a while. Now you know a bit like the wedding photographer feels when things don't quite work out.;)

Do you think you will ever meet with Mr. NC again?
 
raid said:
I used Ilford Delta 3200 then. Now I am using XP2.
Click to expand...

Raid, I am not so sure that your film was "torn".

In the past year, I have had three rolls of Ilford XP2 (35mm) detach from the pickup spool.

The first time, I had no idea what had happened and removed the base plate thus ruining the roll.

The second time, I retrieved the film in a dark closet and placed it into the film canister (not the cartridge!) and explained the situation to the lab tech. This roll was "salvaged".

Last week, the same thing occurred for the third time! Again, I recovered the film in a dark closet and explained the situation to the front desk at the lab. Unfortunately, the customer rep did NOT convey the message to the lab tech who opened the canister and ruined the film.

If this situation had occurred once, it could be passed off as an unfortunate event. Twice, maybe it was just a bad coincidence, but three times indicates a pattern. And now I hear that Raid has had similar problems...

In examining the ruined film, I noticed that the end of the XP2 roll is "hooked" to the pickup spool. (Film from other manufacturers is taped.) This "hook" technique is either insufficient (i.e. a design flaw) or was never "notched" into the pickup spool in the first place (i.e. a manufacturing defect). FWIW, I felt NO resistance at the end of each of the three rolls.

My interpretation is that Ilford recently changed the way their film is attached to the pickup spool. (Most likely in the interest of manufacturing cost savings.)

FWIW, in fifty years plus of shooting film, I have never had a roll detach from the pickup spool, until recently.

I am in communication with Harman Technology with regard to this matter and should be hearing more from them shortly.

In any case, going forward, I will NOT be using any Ilford film until they have provided solid assurances that this manufacturing defect has been resolved.
 
gb hill said:
Sorry about your dilemma with the film Raid. I know you have been looking forward to your meeting for a while. Now you know a bit like the wedding photographer feels when things don't quite work out.;)

Do you think you will ever meet with Mr. NC again?
Click to expand...

Well, he is 87 years old, and he has committments to give talks going back over a decade, he told me. People are waiting that long! I hioe that our paths will cross again.
 
My case differs

My case differs

In my case, the film/backpaper was torn. I had two pieces.

Raid

gustavoAvila said:
Raid, I am not so sure that your film was "torn".

In the past year, I have had three rolls of Ilford XP2 (35mm) detach from the pickup spool.

The first time, I had no idea what had happened and removed the base plate thus ruining the roll.

The second time, I retrieved the film in a dark closet and placed it into the film canister (not the cartridge!) and explained the situation to the lab tech. This roll was "salvaged".

Last week, the same thing occurred for the third time! Again, I recovered the film in a dark closet and explained the situation to the front desk at the lab. Unfortunately, the customer rep did NOT convey the message to the lab tech who opened the canister and ruined the film.

If this situation had occurred once, it could be passed off as an unfortunate event. Twice, maybe it was just a bad coincidence, but three times indicates a pattern. And now I hear that Raid has had similar problems...

In examining the ruined film, I noticed that the end of the XP2 roll is "hooked" to the pickup spool. (Film from other manufacturers is taped.) This "hook" technique is either insufficient (i.e. a design flaw) or was never "notched" into the pickup spool in the first place (i.e. a manufacturing defect). FWIW, I felt NO resistance at the end of each of the three rolls.

My interpretation is that Ilford recently changed the way their film is attached to the pickup spool. (Most likely in the interest of manufacturing cost savings.)

FWIW, in fifty years plus of shooting film, I have never had a roll detach from the pickup spool, until recently.

I am in communication with Harman Technology with regard to this matter and should be hearing more from them shortly.

In any case, going forward, I will NOT be using any Ilford film until they have provided solid assurances that this manufacturing defect has been resolved.
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom