alien8
Established
I'm sure I'm just echoing sentiments that have already been expressed here, but I would jump on this camera if it had an electronic viewfinder. The only digital I currently have is a panasonic lx-1 which I would really like to replace with a larger sensor yet compact camera. However, having used the panasonic for a few years, I know the lcd is not always the best for composition. I hope panasonic comes out with a m4/3 styled more like the lx-3 or this ep-1 soon.
Also, is it just me, or do the samples on dpreview show excessive noise at iso 100 and 200? Doesn't seem like dslr quality to me, but I've never owned a dslr, just going on other images I've seen posted.
Also, is it just me, or do the samples on dpreview show excessive noise at iso 100 and 200? Doesn't seem like dslr quality to me, but I've never owned a dslr, just going on other images I've seen posted.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
It's hard to make much of samples at dpreview. They seem to mostly shoot average snapshots rather than pushing the cameras limits.
peterc
Heretic
The Canadian price is $999.99 with the 17mm, $899.99 with the zoom. Henry's is taking pre-orders.Mind you, I'm still waiting for an official price and review
wallace
Well-known
digital Trip 35
digital Trip 35
If they add the viewfinder, what will the Pen cost then???
Please, Olympus, give us a digital Trip 35 with a 17 or 20mm (same sensor as the Pen) fixed focal lenghth and a nice viewfinder instead!!! Best (for me) would be a b/w version.
wallace
digital Trip 35
I am glad that Olympus is making the digital PEN into a range of cameras.
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...s_planned_update_16_June_5pm_news_284586.html
If they add the viewfinder, what will the Pen cost then???
Please, Olympus, give us a digital Trip 35 with a 17 or 20mm (same sensor as the Pen) fixed focal lenghth and a nice viewfinder instead!!! Best (for me) would be a b/w version.
wallace
I sure like the carbon frame on my Trek. I'm curious about the economics of carbon fiber on a camera, compared to other materials. An M8 top plate made out of carbon would make the camera MUCH lighter for sure. When I took one apart it seemed like the rest of the camera weighed nothing, all the mass is in the brass.
martin s
Well-known
Some new stuff on engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/engadget-chinese-goes-hands-on-with-the-olympus-e-p1/
martin
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/engadget-chinese-goes-hands-on-with-the-olympus-e-p1/
Peep the two read links for samples, especially that second link for endless YouTube vids, including the fun but frame-rate-destroying effect modes.
martin
historicist
Well-known
I don't think we'll be seeing carbon fibre anytime soon on something like a M top plate, or anything with sharp edges for that matter - very sharp radii curves are weak in cf (look at carbon fibre bikes, they very rarely have sharp edges).
Cutting holes in it also produces fine dust which is a health hazard, though maybe in the production environment this can be dealt with.
Also, to my knowledge you can't put a screw thread in it, but have to bond a piece of metal in to take the screw instead. I would imagine cameras have a fairly large number of screw threads in the body casting.
Carbon is a great material for a lot of things, but small things with complex shapes like a camera body probably aren't suitable.
Cutting holes in it also produces fine dust which is a health hazard, though maybe in the production environment this can be dealt with.
Also, to my knowledge you can't put a screw thread in it, but have to bond a piece of metal in to take the screw instead. I would imagine cameras have a fairly large number of screw threads in the body casting.
Carbon is a great material for a lot of things, but small things with complex shapes like a camera body probably aren't suitable.
BillBingham2
Registered User
I bet with a bit of noodling you could come up with an approach to bond some mounting points. Not everything has to be CF but some parts could be. I think the outside is best kept metal, but the inside CF.
B2 (;->
B2 (;->
majid
Fazal Majid
Here's what I think is nice about this camera: WB bracketing. Do the LX3 or DP2 have this?
If you shoot RAW (pointless on the LX3 but highly recommended on the DP1/DP2), WB bracketing is irrelevant. I never understood the fuss about in-camera processing and cheesy effects. All they do is add bugs and user interface complexity that gets in the way of taking pictures.
Sam N
Well-known
Why I Preordered
Carbon-fiber is a lot more brittle than malleable steel or aluminum. I'd rather have a dent in my camera than a cracked camera.
Carbon-fiber is a lot more brittle than malleable steel or aluminum. I'd rather have a dent in my camera than a cracked camera.
Larky
Well-known
Carbon Kevlar would be nice, but it still uses a clear coat which is brittle. I like metal, don't like plastic.
Tuolumne
Veteran
Why I Preordered
Carbon-fiber is a lot more brittle than malleable steel or aluminum. I'd rather have a dent in my camera than a cracked camera.
A good, balanced review, for never having even seen the camera!
/T
nightfly
Well-known
Give me a black version with the two lens package and a viewfinder for a grand and I'm in.
Chris101
summicronia
I want one, but a thousand dollars? Yikes!
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
I'm going to let others be the early adopter on this one. Waiting for some actual user experience.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
I'm particularly interested in how the LCD on the back handles bright outdoor light. Still can't understand why Olympus would go to the trouble to put this kind of camera together and then stick a low resolution LCD on it. Especially since it has no optical finder or EVF.
user237428934
User deletion pending
Doesn't the micro 4/3rd sensor turn a 15mm lens into a 30mm equivalent field of view? How has Oly addressed this issue in their regular 4/3rd dSLRs?
They just build wider lenses, e.g. a 7-14mm wideangle. Btw. one of the best wideangle zooms ever built.
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
But the G1 is cheaper than the EP-1![]()
Early adapters of the G1 would disagree; it was about the same as the EP-1 ... except you got a pretty decent kit zoom lens with the price.
~Joe
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Early adapters of the G1 would disagree; it was about the same as the EP-1 ... except you got a pretty decent kit zoom lens with the price.
~Joe
Even so, if I am now deciding between the two cameras, I'm going to compare prices as they exist today.
To make things worse for hte E-P1, I would compare it to a used G1, because I don't mind buying used.
I'm not trying to be fair, just to make the best buying decision for myself.
I wonder why we haven't seen a "G1 vs. E-P1" thread yet to summarize and compare features?
aad
Not so new now.
$800 for camera and lens at B&H, not so bad compared to the G1, is it?
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