It's official, it is goin to be a digital Pen

I think the front shot looks pretty cool! It's a winner in the aesthetics dept to me. The latest rumor over on 43rumors.com is that the kit lens is a 14-42mm f3.5-5.6, which is a little disappointing at the alleged pricepoint. I'd rather that pancake 2.8 that's been floating around the rumor mill.
 
isn't there another rumor of a more "pro" 2nd body version of m43 coming from Olympus later this year? So does that mean a totally different camera or just the same one in black ;-)
 
morgan said:
I think the front shot looks pretty cool! It's a winner in the aesthetics dept to me. The latest rumor over on 43rumors.com is that the kit lens is a 14-42mm f3.5-5.6, which is a little disappointing at the alleged pricepoint. I'd rather that pancake 2.8 that's been floating around the rumor mill.
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that 14-42mm kit lens is 4cm long. Talk about amazingly small.

I'd bet the 17mm f2.8 will come as a kit as well - they did it with the e-420 and 25mm f2.8 pancake...
 
As much as I like primes, I'd probably get the EP-1 + 14-42 kit anyway. It'd be the best way to get to 28mm equiv. on the wide end. Even the 15/4.5 Heliar won't get you quite as wide and it's slower and lacks AF.

Anyone know if this thing is supposed to have HD video (or any video) capabilities? I used to think video was useless but I found myself using it quite a few times on my last trip.
 
fdigital said:
that 14-42mm kit lens is 4cm long. Talk about amazingly small.

I'd bet the 17mm f2.8 will come as a kit as well - they did it with the e-420 and 25mm f2.8 pancake...
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If I get both in the kit, then it's a done deal. That would be seriously awesome. And you're right, that's ridiculously small.
 
Bruin said:
The gap between full format and 4/3 is still significant. The gap between APS-C and 4/3 is not so much, to the point where they're comparable. Any of them is MUCH better than your typical P&S sensor.

Everyone happy now? 😉
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I have heard it said that in the digital realm, 4/3rds is the new 35mm; full frame is the new medium format; and medium format is the new large format. Does that pecking order make sense? It does to me.

/T
 
Until 4/3's becomes the dominant format, replacing APS-C, I'm not sure it can be called the "new" anything. We're not just early adopters, we're pre-adopters! 😉
 
sevres_babylone said:
The clamshell model -- also known as the Digital XA🙂
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Actually, ever since this Pen started to become semi-official with the Pen history campaign, I've been trying to imagine what a Digital XA would be. I'm sadly having a difficult time imaging a camera that would be state of the art, worthy of the name, and marketable all at once.
 
Wiyum said:
Actually, ever since this Pen started to become semi-official with the Pen history campaign, I've been trying to imagine what a Digital XA would be. I'm sadly having a difficult time imaging a camera that would be state of the art, worthy of the name, and marketable all at once.
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Seems a fixed lens m43rds with optical viewfinder made absolutely as small as possible would fit the same niche.
 
dazedgonebye said:
Seems a fixed lens m43rds with optical viewfinder made absolutely as small as possible would fit the same niche.
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That's certainly close. But why use that sensor? Just because you're buying them already for other cameras? I guess so. Fixed lens would frustrate many potential users on one end of the spectrum, and the lack of a coupled rangefinder would frustrate users on the other end. Capturing both ends would be impossible, it seems, and I imagine the zoom lens, no coupling crowd would win out from sheer numbers. Then you have a rather bland camera, unless they find some way to doll it up.
 
Wiyum said:
Well, I pretty much agree with you there. I think the 4/3 standard is deeply flawed in a number of ways, because the cameras aren't radically smaller at all. This, however, is. I wouldn't trade my d700 for anything for important work, I just want a camera for the rest of the time.

I wish I shared your optimism regarding future dRF development. I'm skeptical in the first place that we'll get a fullframe dRF that soon; in the second place that Leica or Zeiss will deliver a sensor as strong as the Nikons (Zeiss, with Sony, might); and in the third place that such an item would be remotely affordable for me. The $3000 d700 was pretty much my limit; add the $3000 premium for full frame to the $4000 premium for dRF, and we might not get a full $7000, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were that or higher. Great for those that can afford it, that just isn't me.
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I agree! I would love something nice that I could bring with me everywhere. Right now that is my yashica 35 GSN with some 400 iso film. Not a perfect solution in a digital world though. I suspect that at least the leica full frame dRF will be very ,very expensive. I'm having some futile hopes that the zeiss one, if it comes, will be less so.
 
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