Leica 35mm Summilux Steel Rim

Look, the “wide open” thing is a fad mainly defining amateurs and wanbabes.

In general, nornal shooting conditions will hold you anywhere vetween f2.8 and f8.

Shooting wide open in subdued light will look good because the light denands it.

Shootibg wide open in strong light reeks ugliness and screams amateurism.
A wide open inage should necer scream WIDE OPEN. If it does, it’s missed.
Guess you don't like impressionism.
 
Look, the “wide open” thing is a fad mainly defining amateurs and wanbabes.

In general, nornal shooting conditions will hold you anywhere vetween f2.8 and f8.

Shooting wide open in subdued light will look good because the light denands it.

Shootibg wide open in strong light reeks ugliness and screams amateurism.
A wide open inage should necer scream WIDE OPEN. If it does, it’s missed.
Weird comment, I guess the much of the 21 century is full of "amateurs".... Winogrand, Friedlander, Frank, Bresson etc... Its the content that defines that merit of an image not technical qualities of a lens that nobody cares about except photography lens nerds
 
Weird comment, I guess the much of the 21 century is full of "amateurs".... Winogrand, Friedlander, Frank, Bresson etc... Its the content that defines that merit of an image not technical qualities of a lens that nobody cares about except photography lens nerds
just FYI, there's no point engaging with this guy. I did for a while earlier in this thread, and when I realized he refused to get it when I was calling him out on his sheer nonsense, I just stopped responding to him.
 
just FYI, there's no point engaging with this guy. I did for a while earlier in this thread, and when I realized he refused to get it when I was calling him out on his sheer nonsense, I just stopped responding to him.
just FYI, there's no point engaging with this guy. I did for a while earlier in this thread, and when I realized he refused to get it when I was calling him out on his sheer nonsense, I just stopped responding to him.

“calling me” on my “sheer nonsense”? According to… you?

yes, I stand by what I say: the bokeh wide open thing only looks good in the proper light: low light. Anything involving nd filters in broad sunlight just for the sake of bokeh comes across as a crutch, somewhat amateuristic.

And no, Winogrand, HCB (include whatever big name here) never relied on bokeh. They relied on composition, timing, and they always sought to be at least at f5.6. That was the school back then.

🙄
 
just FYI, there's no point engaging with this guy. I did for a while earlier in this thread, and when I realized he refused to get it when I was calling him out on his sheer nonsense, I just stopped responding to him.
Ah…. I’ve never interacted with you in this thread ever, but ok.
 
Wish I had this lens to shoot with
Or a type ii 1.4
Or a 8 element summicron type 1
Or a first type steel rim

But I don’t have the funds for them
Except maybe the type ii
Which has even got pricey now

With Leica the collectors seriously
Restrict numbers availible & keep prices high
Considering what used examples are going for the price is not that bad

& with older lenses , there are often condition issues with the optics
Buying older used

If I had this lens
Would probably be my only lens
 
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“calling me” on my “sheer nonsense”? According to… you?

yes, I stand by what I say: the bokeh wide open thing only looks good in the proper light: low light. Anything involving nd filters in broad sunlight just for the sake of bokeh comes across as a crutch, somewhat amateuristic.

And no, Winogrand, HCB (include whatever big name here) never relied on bokeh. They relied on composition, timing, and they always sought to be at least at f5.6. That was the school back then.

🙄
you can even stand on your head, it won't change anything
 
“calling me” on my “sheer nonsense”? According to… you?

yes, I stand by what I say: the bokeh wide open thing only looks good in the proper light: low light. Anything involving nd filters in broad sunlight just for the sake of bokeh comes across as a crutch, somewhat amateuristic.

And no, Winogrand, HCB (include whatever big name here) never relied on bokeh. They relied on composition, timing, and they always sought to be at least at f5.6. That was the school back then.

🙄
f/5.6-8 and leave it was for zone focusing -- that's why they did it. Street, journalism demanded it. Not every style of photography demands that.
 
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“calling me” on my “sheer nonsense”? According to… you?

yes, I stand by what I say: the bokeh wide open thing only looks good in the proper light: low light. Anything involving nd filters in broad sunlight just for the sake of bokeh comes across as a crutch, somewhat amateuristic.

And no, Winogrand, HCB (include whatever big name here) never relied on bokeh. They relied on composition, timing, and they always sought to be at least at f5.6. That was the school back then.

🙄
It's not composition and timing alone that makes a picture. The most important aspect of a picture is the quality of the light. As the old photography saying goes, beginners talk about equipment, amateurs about composition, but the experts, they talk about the light. Now an argument can be made that playing with depth of field does affect the quality of light perceived in the final image -- that seems obvious. The rules that may be applicable to one small segment don't necessarily apply to the whole.
 
A good friend ( also a member here) kindly let me shoot his steel rim reissue earlier this year on a morning photo walk in mid-town Sacramento. The photo below was made in dappled light on Color Plus 200. It’s a sweet lens IMO…

Leica M6, Leica Summilux 35mm f1.4 Steel Rim reissue, Kodak Color Plus 200:

Mid-town Sacramento by Steve Macfarlane, on Flickr
 
“calling me” on my “sheer nonsense”? According to… you?

yes, I stand by what I say: the bokeh wide open thing only looks good in the proper light: low light. Anything involving nd filters in broad sunlight just for the sake of bokeh comes across as a crutch, somewhat amateuristic.

And no, Winogrand, HCB (include whatever big name here) never relied on bokeh. They relied on composition, timing, and they always sought to be at least at f5.6. That was the school back then.

🙄
You're forgetting the most important thing CONTENT!
 
A good friend ( also a member here) kindly let me shoot his steel rim reissue earlier this year on a morning photo walk in mid-town Sacramento. The photo below was made in dappled light on Color Plus 200. It’s a sweet lens IMO…

Leica M6, Leica Summilux 35mm f1.4 Steel Rim reissue, Kodak Color Plus 200:

Mid-town Sacramento by Steve Macfarlane, on Flickr
How did you like the way the lens handled compared to other 35mms ?
 
How did you like the way the lens handled compared to other 35mms ?
I still prefer my Ultron 35mm f2.0 Vintage v. I, but the Summilux handled OK. Its focusing action is quite smooth and the lens is reasonably compact. Overall, this lens confirmed that I really don't need a faster 35mm than f2.0 for 99% of my photography with that focal length. But I applaud Leica for reissuing this lens, along w/ the M6.
 
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