Ronald M
Veteran
I voted for the first four, and shall never sell them.
The others are nice lenses, but i don`t have them in LTM.
My fav is the rigid, but the optics are the same as DR and I don`t like the DR handling nearly as well.
The others are nice lenses, but i don`t have them in LTM.
My fav is the rigid, but the optics are the same as DR and I don`t like the DR handling nearly as well.
Al Kaplan
Veteran
There's obviously some fun involved with trying out various lenses to see how they handle flare, perhaps what their bokeh looks like, and so on. You could devote your life to doing just that. That's not the reason I make photographs. I prefer using a lens that I don't dislike, if you know what I mean, something that doesn't call attention to itself too much, and I don't have bunches of lenses to choose from, not even an example of every focal length.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
collapsible all the Way....Moi

helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
I have had the Elmar, the Summarit, the DR Cron...
Crisp & Sharp...ALL Lovely
BUT the Collapsible Stole my Heart...
Crisp & Sharp...ALL Lovely
BUT the Collapsible Stole my Heart...
themaxou
Leica IIIc addict user
Hello,
I have had an Elmar f3,5, a Summar, a Summitar and a collapsible Summicron. I kept the Elmar because of his large scale of greys, his sharpness and because it fits very well on my IIIc. Even with its aperture, I find it very interesting. It is a very nice lens at full aperture, with a good definition at f5,6.
I did not like the Summar, too soft for me and with a low definition...
I did not find any difference between my Summitar and my Summicron. If it should buy a fastest lens, I will go for a Summitar for his bokeh, its sharpness, its very good definition at f5,6 or f8 and his really good price !
I gonna test a Sonnar on a Contax II.
I have had an Elmar f3,5, a Summar, a Summitar and a collapsible Summicron. I kept the Elmar because of his large scale of greys, his sharpness and because it fits very well on my IIIc. Even with its aperture, I find it very interesting. It is a very nice lens at full aperture, with a good definition at f5,6.
I did not like the Summar, too soft for me and with a low definition...
I did not find any difference between my Summitar and my Summicron. If it should buy a fastest lens, I will go for a Summitar for his bokeh, its sharpness, its very good definition at f5,6 or f8 and his really good price !
I gonna test a Sonnar on a Contax II.
raid
Dad Photographer
collapsible all the Way....Moi![]()
Very nice, Madam Helen.
Oui oui ...
raid
Dad Photographer
Hello Raid,
This is a very interesting thread and I understand from your postings that you regard the classic Leica screw mount lenses, and in particular the 50mm's, as the finest lenses made for the screw mount Leica.
Could you tell me, if this is so, why your profile states :-
"In Sonnar lenses we trust. Other lenses are suspect. "
I don't think that Leitz produced a "Sonnar" type lens,all the Leitz lenses were based on the Gauss (modified) design.
I have stated many times that I started out with Zeiss lenses when I was using only SLR cameras and lenses. Then I added the Rolleiflex TLR as my MF cameras,and again, they sported Zeiss lenses.
I like Zeiss and also Leica lenses that I can afford. Both have great lenses in their stalls. I take what I can get.
I am not sure that Leica has the finest lenses for all type of lenses.
raid
Dad Photographer
In Statistics, there is a well known saying by someone ...
"In God we trust. All others must bring data"
I was inspired by this statement.
I have been leaning towards the Sonnar lenses since a year ago. Maybe next year I will prefer other lens designs.
This thread is about Leica 5cm lenses, and I do not recall stating anywhere that I favor Leica 5cm lenses over other 5cm lenses.
"In God we trust. All others must bring data"
I was inspired by this statement.
I have been leaning towards the Sonnar lenses since a year ago. Maybe next year I will prefer other lens designs.
This thread is about Leica 5cm lenses, and I do not recall stating anywhere that I favor Leica 5cm lenses over other 5cm lenses.
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helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
Thank YOU Raid, Love Ya Mon Amie....
Now My INTEREST in the Summar & Summitar
has GREATLY SOARED
I want to try one...
Now My INTEREST in the Summar & Summitar
has GREATLY SOARED
I want to try one...
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raid
Dad Photographer
Helen,
Both are inexpensive. The Summar is hard to get in very clean condition. The Summitar may be easier to find in very clean condition.
Both are inexpensive. The Summar is hard to get in very clean condition. The Summitar may be easier to find in very clean condition.
gb hill
Veteran
Raid is noted for his lens test here on RFF. It was his 50mm lens test he did a couple years back that made me go hunting for a J-3. I now can say I have a good example of one. Raid is also known for his love of sonner lenses, but nothing wrong with a thread on the ltm Leitz made lenses. This thread has reminded me that my 1945 50/3.5 Elmar has been neglected. Time to break it out and burn a few rolls with it. I was wondering & asked on a thread I started on coated & uncoated lenses when did they start coating elmar's & are the early post WWII lenses multi or single coated?
thomasw_
Well-known
I am very late in coming to this thread but there's no doubt in my mind that the DR Summicron is my favourite all-round classic Leica lens. One of my all-time favourite lenses bar none. I had a beautiful copy and sold it...yet happily I just bought another beautiful copy with its goggles; if it proves to be as good as my first copy, I will never make the same mistake again 
raid
Dad Photographer
Thomas,
Have you ever tried a rigid Summicron? It is supposedly identical to the DR.
Have you ever tried a rigid Summicron? It is supposedly identical to the DR.
JustPlainBill
Established
Hi Raid,
I generally use my 50 mm DR Sumicron because of its close focusing capability. I also have a rigid Sumicron and a non-Leica 50 mm f1.4 which I use when I need the extra f stop.
Cheeers,
JustPlainBill
I generally use my 50 mm DR Sumicron because of its close focusing capability. I also have a rigid Sumicron and a non-Leica 50 mm f1.4 which I use when I need the extra f stop.
Cheeers,
JustPlainBill
raid
Dad Photographer
I changed my signature a little .,... take a look.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
RAID:
how bout
'it was a Dark & Stormy Night and the Sonnar Ruled'....
how bout
'it was a Dark & Stormy Night and the Sonnar Ruled'....
raid
Dad Photographer
'it was a Dark & Stormy Night and the Sonnar Ruled'
Once upon a time, a boy named Sonnar met a girl named Planar.
It was a relationship that did not last.
Sonnar went his way to create beautiful portraits while Planar better defined the corners.
The beauty of it all is that we have alternatives that can be to our advantage. I may carry a Leica 35mm lens and a Zeiss Sonnar 50mm lens ... etc.
Once upon a time, a boy named Sonnar met a girl named Planar.
It was a relationship that did not last.
Sonnar went his way to create beautiful portraits while Planar better defined the corners.
The beauty of it all is that we have alternatives that can be to our advantage. I may carry a Leica 35mm lens and a Zeiss Sonnar 50mm lens ... etc.
gb hill
Veteran
...Sonnar was swept off his toes by a beautiful Russian girl in which they boarded a Sputnik & flew off to the planet Jupiter.
raid
Dad Photographer
Any Jupiter lens babies born between 1952-1954 seem to have German eyes and Soviet bodies. It is a nice blend of lens genes.
jmkelly
rangefinder user
And some of us technocrat types can't resist messing with nature, and have created in our labs lenses with Soviet eyes and German bodies. But the images still look Sonnar.

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