anselwannab
Well-known
Agreed.
I dont think theres much demand for a fixed 28. Its just too wide.
I doubt Leica would go that route.
I agree. I've been amazed at how 'wide' a 40 is on my Cl and the '35' on my x100T.
A fixed lens and an evf make,no sense to me. EVFs work well for zooms. Framing changes with focus distance with a fixed lens, but the frames move in the optical X100 finder. An EVF perhaps is to distance it from the Ms, but with the X100 getting better and a new XPRO2 soon Leica better watch out in case someone like Cosina/Zeiss doesn't come because Leica is 'protecting' their Ms.
aizan
Veteran
full frame, 28mm, rf-style evf...nice, but not my cup of tea. for that kind of camera, i'd prefer aps-c with a 35mm-e lens.
now, if it had a 24-100mm f2.8 lens, slr-style evf, and a tilt/swivel LCD, that would work out great as a sony r1 replacement.
now, if it had a 24-100mm f2.8 lens, slr-style evf, and a tilt/swivel LCD, that would work out great as a sony r1 replacement.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
28 mm isn't wide. It is less forgiving.
They could name this camera as Leica GW.
They could name this camera as Leica GW.
nongfuspring
Well-known
The moment we've all be waiting for: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/fir...-the-new-leica-q-fixed-lens-full-frame-camera
Looks great IMO. I hope they come out with a 50mm version also, that would make a great combination.

Looks great IMO. I hope they come out with a 50mm version also, that would make a great combination.
uhoh7
Veteran
How can you call a f/1.7 lens "Summilux"?
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Well, it's below F2.0 
Dang. I must say I like the look. I can see the eyecup of EVF peaking out, and seems like the lens barrel got manual focus scale as well. Looking forward to learning more about the camera.
Dang. I must say I like the look. I can see the eyecup of EVF peaking out, and seems like the lens barrel got manual focus scale as well. Looking forward to learning more about the camera.
Larry H-L
Well-known
The 15mm f1.7 Panasonic-Leica m4/3 lens (which is a quite nice lens on Oly/Pano bodies) is also called "Summilux."
I guess f1.7 is the new 1.4.
I guess f1.7 is the new 1.4.
Kwesi
Well-known
Agreed.
I dont think theres much demand for a fixed 28. Its just too wide.
I doubt Leica would go that route.
I may have to eat my words
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Cute .... but I'll stick to my M240 thanks!
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Nice! I agree that 28 is an odd choice, but this looks neat.
This is one that I'd really have to see in person before I can feel good about it.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Nice! I agree that 28 is an odd choice, but this looks neat.
28mm FOV is not so wide if you are an urban dweller. Not for everyone, but good for me.
Cal
mod2001
Old school modernist
28mm is perfect, and with 24MP you can easily crop to get 35mm, its not possible in the other way 
Maybe we are lucky and the offer a crop mode like the Ricoh GR has, should be easy with an EVF.
Yogi
Maybe we are lucky and the offer a crop mode like the Ricoh GR has, should be easy with an EVF.
Yogi
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
28mm FOV is not so wide if you are an urban dweller. Not for everyone, but good for me.
Cal
It is indeed my favorite street FOV—and I suppose that's maybe the intended purpose of this camera? It's also the FOV of the iPhone camera, and I wonder if a few new photographers who got interested via their phone will consider this as a camera upgrade.
It just occurred to me: 28mm equivalent is probably now the most popular FOV in the world. So, maybe not so odd.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
It is indeed my favorite street FOV—and I suppose that's maybe the intended purpose of this camera? It's also the FOV of the iPhone camera, and I wonder if a few new photographers who got interested via their phone will consider this as a camera upgrade.
It just occurred to me: 28mm equivalent is probably now the most popular FOV in the world. So, maybe not so odd.
M,
Perhaps 35 might still be and prevails as the most popular wide FOV. You make a good point that the urban hipster might be the target market.
If Leica is reading this thread they should note that a 28-50 mm spread is being promoted here on this thread. A 50 would also be good for me, and know that I am known to shoot two rigged Leicas with a 28-50 spread.
Cal
BillBingham2
Registered User
In regards to VF or no VF.
Using the Ricoh GR has taught me .... composing on a 3" screen is much nicer than at eye level for 28mm and wider.
Seeing the scene and it's components. Finding the eye point desired. Levelinging the horizon.... all are much more efficiently achieved on a digital "Ground Glass"......
Forget a built in VF, give me a hot shoe that I can put on my beloved CV bring line finder please and thank you.
I get much fewer strange looks when I use a bright line finder than my old cloth focusing hood from my 4x5.....
B2 (;->
Forget a built in VF, give me a hot shoe that I can put on my beloved CV bring line finder please and thank you.
Well, there are plenty of options for that. This one is for those that want an EVF!
FrozenInTime
Well-known
The big question is :
Does the rear screen flip around for selfies ?
That is why they chose 28mm is it not
Does the rear screen flip around for selfies ?
That is why they chose 28mm is it not
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
The big question is :
Does the rear screen flip around for selfies ?
That is why they chose 28mm is it not![]()
FIT,
Thanks for the laugh.
Cal
f16sunshine
Moderator
The big question is :
Does the rear screen flip around for selfies ?
That is why they chose 28mm is it not![]()
Why did they choose the 28 ? Why not the classic Leica 35 for their first FF fixed? Or for that matter why not bring back the 40mm from the C series ?
With the high performance of aps size sensors these days the prime reason to go to a larger sensor is for greater control of DOF. Going to 28mm seems counterintuitive in this regard.
Or maybe DOF is just my agenda
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