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Do you happen to know what the combination cost when new?
Leica IIIC K - share info and questions
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Do you happen to know what the combination cost when new?
LeicaTom
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Using the above calculator, that would be $4700 in inflated 2010 dollars.
LeicaTom
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No matter what this cost new.....this is very kool and lot's of fun 🙂
*Thanks Santa for the motor!*
My "Sharkskin" 1945/48 IIIC K Chrome and a 1948 Black Paint MOOLY C motor.
Let's see some more IIIC K's posted here, show off your K!
Enjoy!
Tom
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Excellent looking set Tom, (I'm Green with Envy as usual).
To join in I could paint a K on the shutter of my IIICs ....nah....
To join in I could paint a K on the shutter of my IIICs ....nah....
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Fyi
Fyi
Got the 'just arrived' email from Leicashop this morning, they have two IIIc-K's for sale at the moment, a grey one with Summitar and a civilian issue chrome one! Prices are inflated though.
Links:
https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/iiic-grey-p-75.html
and
https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/iiic-39german-military39-p-58.html
Other grey cameras and a 1941 Stepper are here too (bottom of page):
https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/leica-leica-schraubkameras-c-1000_1001.html?ja=1
Nothing like the excitement of an open eBay auction, but it'll be interesting to see how long these cameras last and the shots of them are greatly detailed, exquisite camera p*rn! 😀
Fyi
Got the 'just arrived' email from Leicashop this morning, they have two IIIc-K's for sale at the moment, a grey one with Summitar and a civilian issue chrome one! Prices are inflated though.
Links:
https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/iiic-grey-p-75.html
and
https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/iiic-39german-military39-p-58.html
Other grey cameras and a 1941 Stepper are here too (bottom of page):
https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/leica-leica-schraubkameras-c-1000_1001.html?ja=1
Nothing like the excitement of an open eBay auction, but it'll be interesting to see how long these cameras last and the shots of them are greatly detailed, exquisite camera p*rn! 😀
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Ahhh, Leicashop - never knowingly underpriced!
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Tom - have you tried that MOOLY-C on a post-war IIIc or a IIIf? I know that you and I spoke about it when I had my black MOOLY-C (which now in Taiwan somewhere!), and it didn't work for me because of the different 'notch' at the end of the winding shaft in the camera. Just curious.....
LeicaTom
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Heya Vince!
Yes, my motor came recently from a very well known collection (from the late Fred Sternenberg LHSA) and it was "mated" to a #395xxx issue "Stepper" IIIC (Oct 1945) and the notches and shaft fit up perfectly with my 1945/48 IIIC K, the motor mates up but Jim Lager told me that a few small adjustments have to be made to match the camera to motor, while it only cycles one shot, the spring and movement are very nice and firm, the motor is maybe 98% paint and wasn't used very much, it matches the "Sharkskin" camera well, as soon as I can afford to send off the combo with lens, they go to DAG for CLA. 🙂
Tom
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Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Oh oh! I spotted something affordable in that Leicashop link 😀
LeicaTom
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Hahahahhahahaha! Is someone here buying a IIIC K? ~ Hope so, I feel so damm alone here, LOL!!!!!!!!!
I know (3) John's here at RFF have a grey IIIC K or two, just would like to see someone else enjoying them too 🙂
My daliy camera now is a 1945 Chrome which I've used for a few years now.........the "Major's" US Army Signal Corps camera #3905xx K with the Elmar has been retired and the "Sharkskin" IIIC K is working fine after the Youxin Ye CLA....just haven't had a real film shoot yet this year 🙁
*I still have one more camera to CLA-Restore a #391xxx "K" camera that needs a replacement vulcvanite shell* - I'm hoping to start a website soon, so I can add more photos there too.
John Neal, how's your restoration going on your 1943? Let me know about the paint/vulcanite situation.
I'm perfecting the original styled "K" STAMP for the shutter curtain and I will someday offer that service to stamp verified cameras that owners want restored. 🙂
Tom
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Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
A IIIc K? I wish! 😀 No, trawling through the lenses and accessories I saw a nice lens that I would gladly spend part of my NewYear's bonus on. ...Shame I have to wait a bit longer before I get that cash 😉
Oh well, a diet of tinned beans will do until then. 😀
Oh well, a diet of tinned beans will do until then. 😀
LeicaTom
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LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Here is a very very rare coated "Belag" 1944 Hektor f4.5/135 "Grey Paint" lens for use with a IIIC K Grey body (mainly German Army) ~ this lens came from a private Florida collection (it was a WW2 "Bringback" lens from an officer who was in the O.S.S.) ~ and was in the mid to high 4 figures $$$ and it ranks as one of the rarest of all WW2 era Leitz made lenses.
This will be a featured item at my static museum website mounted together on my 1943 IIIC K Grey (I'm taking some studio shots with the pair in just a few hours) more information will be posted at the website...... 😀
Enjoy!
Tom
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sabears
Member
Very interesting item Tom! I know these lenses very well.
This would be out from the official batch, isn't it?
Send me a message if you want to tell me more.
Many compliments again!
This would be out from the official batch, isn't it?
Send me a message if you want to tell me more.
Many compliments again!
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Yes, it is from the official batch from a 1944 issue, I will post more about this one when my website goes up, ok?
Thanks
Tom
sabears
Member
Ok Tom!
As you know there is one and only one batch signed "gray" : lenses were delivered on 9-29-1941 to the "Acquisitions Department" of the German Army in Berlin (Beschaffungsamt der Wehrmacht in Berlin), they were done for the only batch of the extra rare Leica IIIC W.H. chrome.
But there are genuine not signed , not listed as "gray", only "Hefar" in the delivery book.
The truly original signed "gray Hefar" from the official batch are ultra rare (and worth a lot more) I know of three of them only, from this batch they were never auctioned as far as I know (nor Westlicht, Breker ,Tamarkin, IGavel....).
Cheers.
As you know there is one and only one batch signed "gray" : lenses were delivered on 9-29-1941 to the "Acquisitions Department" of the German Army in Berlin (Beschaffungsamt der Wehrmacht in Berlin), they were done for the only batch of the extra rare Leica IIIC W.H. chrome.
But there are genuine not signed , not listed as "gray", only "Hefar" in the delivery book.
The truly original signed "gray Hefar" from the official batch are ultra rare (and worth a lot more) I know of three of them only, from this batch they were never auctioned as far as I know (nor Westlicht, Breker ,Tamarkin, IGavel....).
Cheers.
LeicaTom
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Well, this one came from a batch that Jim Lager documented in one of his books, it is not noted as a Wehmacht lens and the batch listed is like 26 lenses only, I have NEVER seen a 1944 issue Grey lens before, I have seen like 3 1941's ~ Westlicht had one sold at auction 2 years ago for $10.500 and it was in only EX condition, I know of one other lens that sold private two years ago and one lens that I think is STILL at a dealer I know of...
Tom
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sabears
Member
I know, I had a long argumentation with Jim about these lenses.
I saw both the lenses sold by Westlicht, both belonged from unofficial batch, civilian not written gray, they were n.575.601 (year 1945) and n.576.078 (year 1944).
There are various grey lenses from not official batches, here and there.
For ex. in a grouping of 13.5cm Hektors sent to Berlin on
6.1.45 (15 lenses ) on shipment 13099,
This is only months before the capitulation.
Another batch, sent to Berlin on 4.9.44 on shipment 9778.
Both "...Absolutely no mention of grey finish, many
of these grey HEFAR lenses are not written grey in the records ", Jim wrote me, "but believed genuine".
I know of registered gray Hefar 1941, very few survives, but according to Jim the "almost mythical Hefar " is the WH marked (one and only one batch), rarer than the gray, also different from all the other Hefar!
There are suggestions that Leitz held the focal length of the WH HEFAR to very tight tolerances.
This was done presumably to maintain uniform measurement results.
Cheers
P.S.: yes I have a number of these items, a very interesting field for the researcher/collector that I am.
In the case I will make you know, thank you.
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P.P.S: your Hefar is really nice!
I saw both the lenses sold by Westlicht, both belonged from unofficial batch, civilian not written gray, they were n.575.601 (year 1945) and n.576.078 (year 1944).
There are various grey lenses from not official batches, here and there.
For ex. in a grouping of 13.5cm Hektors sent to Berlin on
6.1.45 (15 lenses ) on shipment 13099,
This is only months before the capitulation.
Another batch, sent to Berlin on 4.9.44 on shipment 9778.
Both "...Absolutely no mention of grey finish, many
of these grey HEFAR lenses are not written grey in the records ", Jim wrote me, "but believed genuine".
I know of registered gray Hefar 1941, very few survives, but according to Jim the "almost mythical Hefar " is the WH marked (one and only one batch), rarer than the gray, also different from all the other Hefar!
There are suggestions that Leitz held the focal length of the WH HEFAR to very tight tolerances.
This was done presumably to maintain uniform measurement results.
Cheers
P.S.: yes I have a number of these items, a very interesting field for the researcher/collector that I am.
In the case I will make you know, thank you.
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P.P.S: your Hefar is really nice!
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