john neal
fallor ergo sum
Johan,
That's sad - smells a bit like sharp practice to me - I wouldn't buy there again
That's sad - smells a bit like sharp practice to me - I wouldn't buy there again
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Hi John,
I've met the seller in person around christmas as I travelled to his shop to exchange the pinholed M2 for another one and he seems an honest person.
But apparently there is some grit in his gearing when it comes to selling online, so I'll most definitely stay away from online sales. Might visit the shop again, he had nice and fair-priced stuff, seemed honest and I actually plugged his shop a little bit here after that x-mas deal.
Too bad...
I will not take that curtain cloth off you, it sounds much to nice to put into a (rather acceptably re-chromed, shiny!) FED! Thanks though for your offer, most appreciated!
Back on topic, keeping my eyes open for a real nice black conversion camera!
I've met the seller in person around christmas as I travelled to his shop to exchange the pinholed M2 for another one and he seems an honest person.
But apparently there is some grit in his gearing when it comes to selling online, so I'll most definitely stay away from online sales. Might visit the shop again, he had nice and fair-priced stuff, seemed honest and I actually plugged his shop a little bit here after that x-mas deal.
Too bad...
I will not take that curtain cloth off you, it sounds much to nice to put into a (rather acceptably re-chromed, shiny!) FED! Thanks though for your offer, most appreciated!
Back on topic, keeping my eyes open for a real nice black conversion camera!
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Johan,
I also have some Aki Asahi double sided stuff - just right for the Fed (I used it for mine) and it gives a lovely finished curtain.
Up to you.......
I also have some Aki Asahi double sided stuff - just right for the Fed (I used it for mine) and it gives a lovely finished curtain.
Up to you.......
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Bummer Johan.
Well my Black Leica I to III conversion never made it to my door.
The package was "lost" by the USPS around the 18th of February) Good thing it was insured... still waiting on the money though...
Well my Black Leica I to III conversion never made it to my door.
The package was "lost" by the USPS around the 18th of February) Good thing it was insured... still waiting on the money though...certifiable
Established
Johan,
I almost bought that very same camera, the seller e-mailed me it was broken so I backed out. This was +- 1 month earlier, so go figure: he re-listed it with the same bogus photo. (I to thought it was an original Leica)
But still a nice guy, with a pretty nice shop... same for all the mishaps!
I almost bought that very same camera, the seller e-mailed me it was broken so I backed out. This was +- 1 month earlier, so go figure: he re-listed it with the same bogus photo. (I to thought it was an original Leica)
But still a nice guy, with a pretty nice shop... same for all the mishaps!
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
Nice IIIa synch conversion just sold
Nice IIIa synch conversion just sold
see here (btw have no connection to the seller):
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...586450&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_751wt_1140
Nice IIIa synch conversion just sold
see here (btw have no connection to the seller):
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...586450&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_751wt_1140
Dralowid
Michael
Erik,
I will try and find out when they stopped converting screw thread cameras...it may take a while...but I now understand one can submit questions to the factory and that they meet once a month to answer what they can...or wish to.
I take it that there are no M or Leicaflex conversions to later versions...like SL to SL2... apart from viewfinder magnifications, removing frames and changing focussing screens?
Wrong thread I know but I'm currently in a debate about Contax I with the 'A' prefix which denotes that they have been back to the factory. It was assumed that this was just for repair but it has been suggested recently that mechanical components were updated at the same time. I do not have the luxury of having two identical Contax Is, earlier versions, one with the 'A' and one without which could prove or disprove this theory if dismantled!
Michael
I will try and find out when they stopped converting screw thread cameras...it may take a while...but I now understand one can submit questions to the factory and that they meet once a month to answer what they can...or wish to.
I take it that there are no M or Leicaflex conversions to later versions...like SL to SL2... apart from viewfinder magnifications, removing frames and changing focussing screens?
Wrong thread I know but I'm currently in a debate about Contax I with the 'A' prefix which denotes that they have been back to the factory. It was assumed that this was just for repair but it has been suggested recently that mechanical components were updated at the same time. I do not have the luxury of having two identical Contax Is, earlier versions, one with the 'A' and one without which could prove or disprove this theory if dismantled!
Michael
Erik van Straten
Veteran
I think one could order a conversion from an M1 to an M2 and of course the conversion from chrome to black paint and the restoration conversion from black paint to black paint.
Also one could order the installation of a frame selector lever on an early M3 and a self timer on an early M2, but that's about it, as far as I know.
Erik.
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
My Leica.1 conv. to Leica.3 Beater.
je2a3
je
Nice to see an octogenarian on active duty!
Good to see you posting again and hope all is well
Joseph
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
No spending cash at the moment.....not that I have any time to play with another III body
OlliL
Well-known
Looks a bit beaten up.
Especially the top plate.
The Elmar seems to be the 35mm.
How does this work on that site.
Is 175€ the final price, or is it something like an auction?
I might be interested.
Especially the top plate.
The Elmar seems to be the 35mm.
How does this work on that site.
Is 175€ the final price, or is it something like an auction?
I might be interested.
certifiable
Established
Unfortunatly it isn't an auction in the true sence of the word, you can bid yes, but you're not obligated to buy in the end...
so even if you bid the asking price, there is no guarantee, same goes for when you're the highest bidder of when your selling stuff: people say they want it, but then dissappear or they place a bid and dissappear .
so even if you bid the asking price, there is no guarantee, same goes for when you're the highest bidder of when your selling stuff: people say they want it, but then dissappear or they place a bid and dissappear .
OlliL
Well-known
Ah OK, I see.
Thanks for clarification.
Thanks for clarification.
Dralowid
Michael
Hmmm, late conversion to II with no sync.
Looks very nice from what I can see but at that price I think it is of academic interest only! No connections with seller...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-lei...609744753?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4cf9e05b71
Michael
Looks very nice from what I can see but at that price I think it is of academic interest only! No connections with seller...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-lei...609744753?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4cf9e05b71
Michael
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Yes, Michael, it looks very nice. Sadly, the seller has a very low feedback score (94,5%) and the item is in the US, so Dutch buyers have to ad %%% import tax. The dollar increased today compared to the euro too ...
It is a very beautiful camera, an early conversion.
Erik.
It is a very beautiful camera, an early conversion.
Erik.
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Dralowid
Michael
Hi Eric,
As a matter of interest, why do you say 'early conversion'?
Is this because of the serial number or is it because of the theory (which I do not subscribe to) that postwar conversions without sync are earlier than those with?
I'd be tempted to describe an 'early conversion' of a I to II to as a camera with larger shutter dial, rounded moulding beneath and maybe the 'kick' round the viewfinder window, probably done in the 1930s not long after the introduction of the II.
Or am I missing something?
Best
M
As a matter of interest, why do you say 'early conversion'?
Is this because of the serial number or is it because of the theory (which I do not subscribe to) that postwar conversions without sync are earlier than those with?
I'd be tempted to describe an 'early conversion' of a I to II to as a camera with larger shutter dial, rounded moulding beneath and maybe the 'kick' round the viewfinder window, probably done in the 1930s not long after the introduction of the II.
Or am I missing something?
Best
M
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Hi Michael,
I think it is an early conversion because of the style of the logo on top. This style was changed at Leitz in about 1954. On the camera we are talking about a IIIc-style engraving is seen. Later conversions show an engraving in the style of the IIIg.
I agree with you that conversions without synch are not earlier than those with.
You are however right that I should have said that it is an early POSTWAR conversion. Of course there are many pre-war conversions too. It is however clear that the camera we are talking about is a post-war conversion.
Erik.
I think it is an early conversion because of the style of the logo on top. This style was changed at Leitz in about 1954. On the camera we are talking about a IIIc-style engraving is seen. Later conversions show an engraving in the style of the IIIg.
I agree with you that conversions without synch are not earlier than those with.
You are however right that I should have said that it is an early POSTWAR conversion. Of course there are many pre-war conversions too. It is however clear that the camera we are talking about is a post-war conversion.
Erik.
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Dralowid
Michael
Hi Eric,
I see what you mean, your knowledge of the detail of engraving styles is way beyond the little I know. I apologise if I have been nit picking...
I'll post some pictures in the next few days of a very rough conversion 497XX which I guess is a non standardsied Leica I converted to a II. It has little paint left and oddly high gloss chrome plated fittings. A mess indeed...
What I don't understand is the film trimming label. This is a normal label with two holes that is attached to a larger plate held with four screws. As part of the conversion this has been added (which is usuual) but it has a U shaped cutout to accomodate the screw that holds shutter assembly to body below the lens (on the inside)
I have not seen this before, have you?
Michael
I see what you mean, your knowledge of the detail of engraving styles is way beyond the little I know. I apologise if I have been nit picking...
I'll post some pictures in the next few days of a very rough conversion 497XX which I guess is a non standardsied Leica I converted to a II. It has little paint left and oddly high gloss chrome plated fittings. A mess indeed...
What I don't understand is the film trimming label. This is a normal label with two holes that is attached to a larger plate held with four screws. As part of the conversion this has been added (which is usuual) but it has a U shaped cutout to accomodate the screw that holds shutter assembly to body below the lens (on the inside)
I have not seen this before, have you?
Michael
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Hi Michael,
I hope you can show a picture of what you mean. What I find interesting in the field of the film trimming labels is that they are sometimes found in a camera on the bottom of the shutter, sometimes on the bottomplate and sometimes not at all! This phenomenon asks for a profound study.
Erik.
I hope you can show a picture of what you mean. What I find interesting in the field of the film trimming labels is that they are sometimes found in a camera on the bottom of the shutter, sometimes on the bottomplate and sometimes not at all! This phenomenon asks for a profound study.
Erik.