michaelwj
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gnuyork
Well-known
Ah... The M-D to me is the most desirable digital M - I am that niche. That and the Monochrom (either one).
I do like how the M10 is thinner like a film M body, and I'm sure there is more advantages...but I like the philosophy of the M-D, no screen etc.
I do like how the M10 is thinner like a film M body, and I'm sure there is more advantages...but I like the philosophy of the M-D, no screen etc.
gnuyork
Well-known
bideford
Established
A new M10 (here in the UK) is 5.6k - a heck of a jump from a used M240. After a blip, due to an increased number of M240's being sold by new M10 owners, I would suspect that used prices of M240's will recover.
As other posts have covered M9's are still holding their price. Even more interesting is the price of a used M8 - getting hard to find and going up in price - not at all bad for digital camera!
Leica remains a niche market that is still coveted enough to keep prices high.
James
As other posts have covered M9's are still holding their price. Even more interesting is the price of a used M8 - getting hard to find and going up in price - not at all bad for digital camera!
Leica remains a niche market that is still coveted enough to keep prices high.
James
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
All I can say is, told you so. A bunch of people said I was crazy in the other thread for saying that the M10 would crush the market for the M240s. It's a good time to be in the market for a used digital M.
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
Come on....
Yeah, I'm with jsrockit here. Let's not go overboard with the doomsday of photography in the era of digital.
willie_901
Veteran
Maybe because all M9s have got a brand new sensor
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Also, the M8 also requires at least one IR filter for color work. Its crop factor is somewhat restrictive and some may not own the most convenient/appropriate focal lengths to produce their favorite fields-of-view.
giganova
Well-known
I wouldn't say "destroyed the used market", I would say it has "correct" then market.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Call me a camera day-trader, a gambler, or speculator, but if a BAT (Border Adjustment Tax Suggested 20% by Paul Ryan) we could see where the price of the M10 suddenly make a big adjustment upward.
Free market, supply and demand, and the value of the dollar certainly could cause the MD and other used camera prices to inflate.
Not really a Black Swan, might not happen, but there are possibilities. A BAT certainly will inflate used camera prices. A BAT is a gamechanger that will definitely effect the value of the dollar and some say it could cause a global recession.
For those wanting a MM or M240 the time to acquire one might be now. Back in the 70's I remember the inflation and what happened with new and used cars. Prices for new cars went down and used car prices got kinda crazy.
Cal
A sub-$3000 M240 is tempting. That said, $2800 IS NOT the going rate at all. It is a one off ad. Ebay finished auctions show the oprice to be at $3300-3500 just yesterday. If that's the case, then store prices will be more.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
John,
A lot of camera for "no money."
I could see someone shooting a M240 for many years and being happy.
The timing is that one has to remember it is tax season so factor this in for the best pricing. At B&H I mentioned the lack of crowds in talking with the sales people in January, but they assured me that after January all this changes with tax refunds.
Cal
Timmyjoe
Veteran
I could be wrong (I often am), but I think the M9 (& it's variants) will hold steady, price wise, in spite of the introduction of newer CMOS Leica M bodies, as the M9 is the last of the CCD sensor cameras. Now that Leica has gone the CMOS route, their cameras are just like Nikon & Canon, and every time a new model comes out, the old model is "yesterday's news" and depreciates. The newer model will have a marginally better sensor, and some extra bells and whistles, and folks who are considering laying out the money, will go with the latest and greatest. On the other hand the only way to get a full frame CCD sensor for your Leica M lenses, with it's limitations and it's advantages, is going to continue to be the used M9 market. It appears that nothing Leica will introduce in the foreseeable future is going to change that.
Michael Markey
Veteran
Store prices for 240s in the UK seem to be around £3k .... there doesn`t seem to be many M9s about.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Tim,
Good point. Glad I still own my MM. Warts and all still a great camera. The rendering is special.
OP misses his MM.
Cal
benmacphoto
Well-known
Where have you seen recent sales at that price?
Lowest I have seen is $3000
Will the used prices recover?
No, they will continue to go down for a few years and then they will level out.
robert blu
quiet photographer
It seems me that M9 and M-E prices are going up in the last few weeks.
M 240 and 262 with a trend down. Maybe this time I'll go with a digital M beside the M7...by the way next monday I'll be in Wetzlar...
robert
M 240 and 262 with a trend down. Maybe this time I'll go with a digital M beside the M7...by the way next monday I'll be in Wetzlar...
robert
Timmyjoe
Veteran
I agree Cal, I may only use my M9 in situations where I have plenty of light, but for that Kodachrome/Ektachrome color pop, nothing I've ever used can come close to the M9 CCD sensor. Possibly because that was the criteria behind the design of the Leica CCD sensor.
Best,
-Tim
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Ben,
There was one here in the RFF classified for $2695.00. Of course it sold fast. No longer listed but the photo link still goes to the original ad. Click on the photo under recent member ads. The camera came boxed.
Cal