squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
A bunch of reviews and previews dropping now...it looks like the digital M I'd always hoped for. Too resource-constrained to own one at the moment, but one of these days!
k__43
Registered Film User
Oh, I'll own one! I'm sure - 8 years from now, when people are in the market for M15s
Am I the only one that is sad they have lost the frame line illumination window since the 240 (Audi M9)? I really liked it design wise. I'm sure the LEDs do a better job but I find the face of an M misses something without it.
Am I the only one that is sad they have lost the frame line illumination window since the 240 (Audi M9)? I really liked it design wise. I'm sure the LEDs do a better job but I find the face of an M misses something without it.
Huss
Veteran
"The camera as a tool does not produce better pictures than the M/240...
If you are happy with the results of the M/240 or the MM2 it is best to skip the M10 release."
I think the M10 is great but I the above quotes from Erwin sums it up for me. When I do use my M240, I have no complaints other than size, but as I shoot film about 90% of the time, I don't mind waiting on the M11. Or M12..
It is a curious move to use a sensor that came out two years ago, and back then wasn't leading edge. I get standardization across the range makes things cheaper, but this is still a $6500 camera. It's a shame that other mfgs sensors on cameras now over two or three years old are technically better.
Emile de Leon
Well-known
I'll wait to the next model..or the next..or next...
At least they got the size down..
At least they got the size down..
______
Well-known
What will be the new going price for a clean used 240?
Anyone notice that the price of the M10 is the same as for the new Fuji GFX50s body with 50MP 33x44 sensor (70% larger), so if we are talking image quality and tools...
Anyone notice that the price of the M10 is the same as for the new Fuji GFX50s body with 50MP 33x44 sensor (70% larger), so if we are talking image quality and tools...
Emile de Leon
Well-known
With this new release..I wouldn't expect much drop..
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
I am not currently looking to get back into digital M, but if and when I do, M10 (or whatever the cheaper version that might come in a few years time) will be it. If they make M10-D, I'd be extra tempted.
If I need a digital M for whatever specific project, I'll enjoy picking up an M9 or M240 variant at lower price following the M10 announcement.
If I need a digital M for whatever specific project, I'll enjoy picking up an M9 or M240 variant at lower price following the M10 announcement.
Huss
Veteran
I agree with Emile. I think Leica did favours for the M240 owners, as it is the only M game in town if you want video, and much more importantly to me, uncompressed raw files.
The M240 offers compressed or uncompressed files. The M10 only compressed.
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
That's a great joke. Just because it's not a camera you want doesn't mean it won't sell well. There's always people out there wanting the latest and greatest and this camera answered a few issues people complained most about with the M240. It's faster, has a higher buffer, better sensor, slimmer, has wifi, etc. This is going to push prices down for sure.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I'm tankful for Leica on M10 like this. It isn't only M9 +1, but also M-E v10 
So, Leica gave me peace of mind with M10 as logical evolution of M-E (no video, no USB, close to film-M size and weight). Hopefully by the time I have to update M-E some used M10 will be around!
IMHO, M240 and its flavors looks like hiccup on M9-M10 line.
So, Leica gave me peace of mind with M10 as logical evolution of M-E (no video, no USB, close to film-M size and weight). Hopefully by the time I have to update M-E some used M10 will be around!
IMHO, M240 and its flavors looks like hiccup on M9-M10 line.
CliveC
Well-known
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Clive, nice to see you around! I have tested Jupiter-12 (remember?
) on M-E and it surprisingly performed even better than on my M4-2.rodt16s
Well-known
In the Jono Slack review -
Leica M10 with 75mm Summilux M Asph.
Is this a typo or actually an Asph 75 lux
Leica M10 with 75mm Summilux M Asph.
Is this a typo or actually an Asph 75 lux
Emile de Leon
Well-known
OK..OK..take 5 bux off...!
But I have to admit..after seeing Huffs review..it looks smaller and just better..if it had video..I would jump..
I think this will sell well for them..
But look to M8/9/M262 prices..to take a hit..
I'm not sure the m240 will until they bring out the next ..vundabar...M cam...w/video..
Then you will see it... prices that is..drop like a stone..
CliveC
Well-known
Clive, nice to see you around! I have tested Jupiter-12 (remember?
Good to hear from you! I still have that Jupiter 12, but I've also added a Voigtlander 35mm Nokton 1.4. For the last little while, I've been shooting the Canon 5D though. Cheaper all around and full frame vs. my GXR.
______
Well-known
Steve is not going to be able to afford a new M10 until he sells a few more of those "Portal Wonder Boxes" he fabricates that supposedly allow you to communicate with the dead. He is hawking those over on his Huff Paranormal website.
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
I don't expect to see the M262 prices drop much. It's gonna remain a production camera, the M240 won't. I think you're overestimating how many people use video in the M cameras. I've been selling these things for the past 3 years and have yet to run into a single person who is using the video at all. Everyone says, "Well, it's cool that it's there but I've never used it."
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I wonder what Ken is up to to be able to afford it?
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
His kids moved out and he accepts donations to himself now.
Huss
Veteran
And reading Jono's review now makes me want one...
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica...review/?utm_source=170118en&utm_medium=E-Mail
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