Mamiya 6 finder ...

[fredus]

Hi there,

I really enjoy my Yashica finder and its 3D like image when you look in it. It's such an experience ! I'm interested in buying a Mamiya 6 but I was reading that the finder is like the one on the Hexar RF ... I thought all medium format camera had a 3D like finder so I was a bit disapointed ... Do only TLR have this kind of finder because of the aditional viewing lens ?? How about Bronica SQ-a ? Or Hasselblad 500cm ?? What kind of finder can I expect ?

Thanks !

Fred

 

[jan normandale]

I've got a Mamiya 6RF and enough Yashica RF's I'm not certain I understand the 3D you want to discuss.

The Mamiya is easier to focus in my opinion.

 

[wdenies]

What is a 3D finder? Judging DOF in the finder?
If you want this buy a view camera, why not a Linhof.
I agree with Jan that focussing with the Mamiya is easy

 

[fredus]

mmm I don't know how to explain .. When I look thru my Yashica finder, the picture is really ... movie like ? Completely different from what I see in my Leica finder for example. It's really a wonderful view ... I don't know how to explain better ...

Fred

 

[Doug]

I'll guess that your Yashica is an SLR or TLR, and therefore when you look through the finder, you're focusing on a ground-glass screen. Things closer than the focus point are blurry; things farther away than the focus point are blurry... This certainly is very different from looking through a rangefinder camera or any other "direct view" viewfinder where you see the scene directly, like looking through a window to the world.

 

[fredus]

Yes Doug that's exactly what I was trying to explain ... Does most MF camera have ground glass ?? Like the Bronica SQ-A and the hasselblad 500cm ... ? I really like the feeling ...

Fred

 

[sf]

Well, SLRs project an image onto groundglass by way of a swinging mirror, and project than image then into your eye by way of a prism/mirror. You can see DOF effects because you are viewing the actual image that the lens sees. In a rangefinder, which the Mamiya 6 is, you are not seeing what the lens sees, and hence cannot see DOF according to aperture. You are looking through a viewfinder that does not modify its DOF according to which aperture you choose. Simply put.

In a Mamiya 6, you will see what you see in the Hexar, for the most part.

 

[jan normandale]

I think I understand now. I thought you were talking about something like a Lynx 14, Electro CC, Electro 35 GSN or GSN. If you are comparing a Yashica TLR with a RF then I'm not the one to help. Keep watching your thread you may get a better answer. Good luck

 

[Doug]

Yes Doug that's exactly what I was trying to explain ... Does most MF camera have ground glass ?? Like the Bronica SQ-A and the hasselblad 500cm ... ? I really like the feeling ...

Hi Fred -- The difference in viewfinders is general to each kind of camera with no regard to film size. There are "direct view" viewfinder cameras (including rangefinder cameras) from the tiniest Minox all the way up to at least 5x7 inch sheet film.

The other general category is cameras that image the scene on a ground-glass screen. And this includes "view cameras" and "reflex cameras" and at least philosophically also digital cameras where you view and frame your shot on an LCD. The common element is that you are viewing the scene projected onto a flat screen of some sort where you can see what parts of the scene are sharp and how unsharp other parts are. "Reflex cameras" includes Single Lens Reflex like most Bronicas, Hasselblads, Pentaxes, Nikons, etc. and Twin Lens Reflexes like most Rolleis.

But Hasselblad markets the XPan, which is a rangefinder camera, and I use a Bronica rangefinder camera. Mamiya makes both kinds too... So if you're looking for that "3D" look as you describe it, you are looking for an SLR or TLR camera, not a rangefinder.