the Leitz universal lens hood, Fikus, is no better at the aperture ring access on the Elmar than the home made lens hood.
I know that Leitz had a dedicated Elmar 50mm lens hood that one could manipulate the aperture control from the outside.
It's the Leitz VALOO.
It was primarily a darkroom accessory, not an actual hood. The Elmar 50/3.5 was often used as an enlarger lens. Problem, the aperture setting dot, concentric to the front lens element, was even more a *pita* to use with the Elmar fitted vertically under the enlarger platine, than what it was with the Elmar casually mounted on a Barnack Leica.
Hence the VALOO design, with that clever trick of driving the Elmar aperture setting dot from the hood itself thanks to a right-angle rotating cam and a ring on the hood to drive the cam.
Then, Elmar owners and users figured out, that the VALOO was a very capable lens hood for in-the-field picture taking, too. What it is, no doubt.
Although being (frankly said, no pun intended) plain ugly...
The Elmar 50/3.5 regular hood is the Leitz FISON.
Really really outstanding pics.
Time to reveal a little secret. There is a place in my heart for the Fed 2 models, mostly because of these collapsibles. But I never imagined such high levels of performance. Hmmmmmm.
But it is precisely the lens, not suited for hoods what I don't understand. Obviously if you put any kind of hood you will not be able to comfortably manipulate the f/stops scale. And for me, not using any hood in a lens is the biggest blasphemy I cannot overcome.
Can any one rescue me ?
Hey, from what I've read recently, you don't have a FED or Zorki etc, but a Kiev, right ?
Hmmm... just look at eBay item 260234622475.
Here you have a great chance to get both, and more. I mean, a lens that isn't coated, which is collapsible, and which will fit the camera you already have.
Plus, it's up for sale by a FSU stuff seller...
Neat, isn't it ?
