Neopan 1600: Status?

I'll probably run out of both 1600PR and Neopan/LP 400 by next summer.

After that, I'll just push 2TMY or HP5+.

I have no idea how I'll replace ACROS when I run out of LP100. Probably with Delta.

What about Fuji branded Acros? Are we talking by the roll? the prices between the two are not that far off. Unless bulk loading was your intention then Ilford is your only choice between the two.
 
What about Fuji branded Acros? Are we talking by the roll? the prices between the two are not that far off. Unless bulk loading was your intention then Ilford is your only choice between the two.

Yes, bulk loading is the intent. I can get the Kodak and Ilford emulsions that I prefer on 100' spools, but not ACROS.
 
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A sad end to another great film, Fuji is doing a terrible job off informing its customers.

I bought the last 50 roll’s last night in Yodabashi in Shinjuku, the sales assistant assured me that the film was not discontinued.

To the OP this thread was a timely reminder on just how fragile the film market is, I had intended to buy only 20 roll’s and buy more before Christmas. Now I doubt there will be any left by then, so thank you.
 
By the way, the film I bought had a June 2012 expiry date. I don‘t know what the standard dates are on high speed film but I suspect it would be 2 to 3 years so this would indicate Fuji shut down this coating line some time ago.
 
I was no very happy that my recently purchased Neopan 400 from B&H expires on 6/2011. I have another 100 rolls of Neopan 1600 coming from Unique Photo, hopefully they'll be further out, not that it really matters.
 
A sad end to another great film, Fuji is doing a terrible job off informing its customers.

I bought the last 50 roll’s last night in Yodabashi in Shinjuku, the sales assistant assured me that the film was not discontinued.

To the OP this thread was a timely reminder on just how fragile the film market is, I had intended to buy only 20 roll’s and buy more before Christmas. Now I doubt there will be any left by then, so thank you.

... I had my mind made up to go to Yodobashi in Shinjuku last night but due to work did not ... Hopefully they can order some rolls for me ...
 
... I had my mind made up to go to Yodobashi in Shinjuku last night but due to work did not ... Hopefully they can order some rolls for me ...

Ha ha ha Gabor, I’ve got a couple off hours to spare before my bus to Narita... guess where I’m going? Its only 5 mins from the hotel to Yodabashi, need to have a look see if there is anymore on the shelves this morning 🙂
 
Gabor, the rush to buy up the last Neopan 1600 has started! When I checked Yodobashi's remaining stock yesterday, only one store was running low. But now there are seven stores running low. I succumbed to temptation and picked up 24 rolls at Yodobashi in Yokohama last night. All my film has a June 2012 expiry date.

http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/000000115201001123/index.html
 
I haven't gotten all I ordered, but the 30 rolls I have already are from two different emulsion runs and both expire 7/12.

The two films couldn't be any more different.

I've used Delta 3200 a few times, but had settled on Neopan for big grain work- and really just got it exactly figured out a few weeks ago. (ISO 1000, run in Rodinal). A good friend of mine has gotten wonderful results with Delta 3200, I believe he uses the Kodak TMAX developer if memory serves me (which it doesn't always)...
 
Gabor, the rush to buy up the last Neopan 1600 has started! When I checked Yodobashi's remaining stock yesterday, only one store was running low. But now there are seven stores running low.

I wonder how many semi-regular Neopan 1600 users there are out there. For that matter, I wonder how many of us there are to sustain the big three...
 
The problem with stocking up film at home is space and expire date ... I can`t stock additional 50 rolls of any film in our freezer at home ... :bang:
 
Retro shmetro

Retro shmetro

I stopped following this thread for a day, and it's really depressing news. I've been shooting it regularly for the past few years. Although the cost has forced me to look at alternatives, I've never stopped shooting it, and have about 10 rolls in stock on hand. I'm really gonna miss this film.

Actually, I'm shocked. I had thought for sure that Fuji was committed to certain films. They still have in production film cameras for cripe's sake.

Suddenly, the retro styling on the X100 that looked so appealing a month ago has become a very bad tasteless joke played upon film lovers by Fujifilm (bar marks over the letters f-i-l-m).
 
Actually, I'm shocked. I had thought for sure that Fuji was committed to certain films. They still have in production film cameras for cripe's sake.

Suddenly, the retro styling on the X100 that looked so appealing a month ago has become a very bad tasteless joke played upon film lovers by Fujifilm (bar marks over the letters f-i-l-m).

My thoughts exactly, too.
 
Suddenly, the retro styling on the X100 that looked so appealing a month ago has become a very bad tasteless joke played upon film lovers by Fujifilm (bar marks over the letters f-i-l-m).

Totally agreed. I may yet buy an X-100, but I'm pretty torqued by the way they've handled this.
 
Delta 3200 and T-Max 3200 are reported to be ISO 1000 and ISO 800-1000 respectively by the manufacturer in their data sheets. Fuji makes no comment on this regard for Neopan 1600, but looking at the H&D curves (and the results) leads me to believe that it falls between ISO 400 and 800.

In the ISO developer described in ISO 6:1974 the ISO speeds of the superspeed B&W films, as tested to ISO standards in 2001 by me and colleagues were:
Neopan 1600 640
Delta 3200 800
TMZ 1000

In subsequent testing using different developers as permitted under ISO 6:1993, I measured an ISO speed of up to ~ 1250 for Delta 3200, a little over 1000 for TMZ and 800 for Neopan 1600.

This is given all the problems with the ISO standard as it applies to real life photography such as use of a 12% reflected reading as per ISO 2720:1974.

But in a lot of ways ISO speeds don't make much difference to real world photography. In losing Neopan 1600 a unique tonality and grain pattern, with an associated specific texture, has been lost and that does matter.

Marty
 
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