Neopan 1600: Status?

noimmunity said:
A friend of mine, a professional developer, is developing Fuji filmstock ND80 at +5 stops (equivalent of ISO1600), getting results that have finer grain than Neopan 1600. I've ordered some and will try it and post results later. What I've seen looks really good. I love Neopan 1600, but for economy I shoot more and more filmstock. ND80 looks like it will take up the high ISO space where Eastman Double X can't go.
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Hi,
could you please tell me what is fuji filmstock nd80?
And where to find it, and how to turn it into 35mm rolls ?
 
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Cutly said:
Hi,
could you please tell me what is fuji filmstock nd80?
And where to find it, and how to turn it into 35mm rolls ?
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I have to check the product name again (pretty sure it was a black and white film rated at ISO80), but it is a black and white film that is produced by Fujifilm for use in the cinema industry. It is only available in bulk rolls (it might 400ft or 800ft), yet since it is 35mm format it can be used in 35mm cameras by loading it into empty 35mm film canisters. Like many people on this board I've been using a similar filmstock, Eastman Kodak 5222, for black and white 35mm photography. But that Kodak film really can't be pushed past ISO400. (There is a long thread here at RFF about that filmstock). Here in Taipei, it is quite easy to get filmstock preloaded into 35mm cassettes for use in Leica-type cameras. Color filmstock has to be developed by a special process, which in Taiwan is available to the public at a couple of places equipped to handle film for the motion picture industry. The colors of that film are fantastic, but it is a pain to get it developed. The black and white films for the motion picture industry however can be developed just like any other black and white emulsion. I've been using Kodak 5222 'Double X' for a couple of years now almost exclusively for low ISO black and white work. Bought in bulk and preloaded into canisters with about 34-36 exposures each, my price is a little above US$2/roll.

For some reason when I just checked the Fujifilm website (http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/motion_picture_film/negative/index.html), I don't find any black and white motion picture film. I'll report again, hopefully on Monday, with more news about the precise product name. It would be too ironic if that film had been cut out of production, too. But my friend runs a professional developing studio in Taipei and has discovered a way to develop it (whatever black and white motion picture film "it" is) that permits pushing to ISO 1600. I have to admit I am very excited about that and hope I can share more news about it later on.
 
i still got a few neopan 1600 rolls, but i will be really sad if it's gone. for those who like shooting in low light environments, it is a delight... actually just yesterday i dropped a roll shot @ 6400 at the lab, picking it up monday. wanted to see it would hold up.
 
bensyverson said:
Has anyone noticed that B&H is listing Neopan 1600 as discontinued, and Adorama only has past-date (01/2010) stock?

Do we know the current status of Neopan 1600?
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I noticed this yesterday also. I checked Fujifilm's japanese site and there is no new announcement about it or Neopan 400 being discontinued. Both of which are supposedly on the chopping block. They are the only two B&W films in this world I care about.
 
And that proves something? The Fuji USA site is complete crap. It still shows Neopan 400 in 120 as available when it has been sold out world wide for months and discontinued a while ago.
 
the availability of film in any country is dependant on the local importer (usually a fuji company) ordering by the pallet from Japan. If fuji USA don't get enough orders from dealers then they won't order from japan. Those dealers that do want it say its not available and then everyone thinks manufacture has stopped when it hasn't.

Fuji UK have setup an online shop so that they can shift film direct to customers to get around the problem of some(many?) dealers giving up on film and going entirely digital. Infact I'd say Fuji UK are very proactive and doing everything they can to keep supply going but they have to meet the minimum order requirements that Fuji Japan make on them.

Fuji USA should be doing the same. If they are not then you have no alternative but to order from overseas. But I wouldn't count on any Fuji films being available in the US if the main importer is not proactive in keeping supply to end users going.
 
flip said:
Now you're just f***ing with me.
FWIW/ I checked the stores. Yodobashi in Osaka knows nothing of 1600 or 400 being discontinued. 400 is still available in 36 at 20 roll bulk for shy of 8000 yen.
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I googled Yodabashi and found their web site, but it's all in Japanese. I did a Google translate which only translated parts of it, and it appears to be a general department store. I can't find anything about cameras or film. Not saying they don't have it, just that I can't find it.

Do they have a web site in English? Do they do international mail order over the web? It seems that if the film is still being made and the distributors and suppliers outside Japan won't order it, then we will have to order direct from Japan ourselves. I know about japanexposures.com. Are there others?
 
I just bought another 15 rolls of 1600 at Glazer's (in Seattle).

That gives me 20 rolls total, so I get to spend one last dark Seattle winter with the stuff. They had at least another 60 rolls in the 'fridge when I left. Expire date on the stuff I took home was 06/2011. Get it while you can.
 
wotalegend said:
I googled Yodabashi and found their web site, but it's all in Japanese. I did a Google translate which only translated parts of it, and it appears to be a general department store. I can't find anything about cameras or film. Not saying they don't have it, just that I can't find it.

Do they have a web site in English? Do they do international mail order over the web? It seems that if the film is still being made and the distributors and suppliers outside Japan won't order it, then we will have to order direct from Japan ourselves. I know about japanexposures.com. Are there others?
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No English site. Probably no international shipping, either.

I noticed at yodobashi that they still sell bricks of the 400 (36x20) for around 8000 yen. That comes to 100 US.
 
wotalegend said:
I googled Yodabashi and found their web site, but it's all in Japanese. I did a Google translate which only translated parts of it, and it appears to be a general department store. I can't find anything about cameras or film. Not saying they don't have it, just that I can't find it.

Do they have a web site in English? Do they do international mail order over the web? It seems that if the film is still being made and the distributors and suppliers outside Japan won't order it, then we will have to order direct from Japan ourselves. I know about japanexposures.com. Are there others?
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You can order from fuji UK if you're desperate.

http://www.fujilab.co.uk/catalog/
 
I should probably emphasise that the Neopan 1600 I picked up today in Seattle has a later expiration date (06/2011) than the stuff on the Adorama site (01/2010).

On the other hand the note at B+H says: "This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available."

Nice job of keeping your customers in the loop, Fuji. 😡

You sure you want me to buy that X-100???
 
tlitody said:
You can order from fuji UK if you're desperate.

http://www.fujilab.co.uk/catalog/
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Thanks, tlitody.

Here's the result of a little research I have just done regarding prices. I have initially used Acros in 135-36 as an example because that seems to be available everywhere, and converted all currencies into AUD using the Google currency converter. And I have ignored shipping cost for the moment.

Fuji UK: GBP3.14 = AUD5.07
Freestyle (USA): USD4.19 = AUD4.23
Japan Exposures: JPY10374 for 20 = AUD128.59 (AUD6.43 per roll)
Vanbar (here in Melbourne): AUD11.30!!

Still cheapest in the US - however when we look at Neopan 1600 (Super Presto in Japan), it is not even listed at Freestyle or Vanbar.

Fuji UK: GBP4.36 = AUD7.04
Japan Exposures: JPY5720 for 10 = AUD70.90 (AUD7.09 per roll)

Fuji UK would charge me GBP14.95 to ship 10 films = AUD24.14
Japan Exposures would charge me JPY1500 = AUD18.59

So the landed cost of 10 rolls of Neopan 1600 in Australia would be AUD94.54 from Fuji UK and AUD89.49 from Japan Exposures
 
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