raid
Dad Photographer
I toyed with the idea of getting a black lens after I ordered a silver one. Prices will go up, but we should not buy lenses simply because prices may increase.
New 50mm f1.1
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f16sunshine
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Actually I think prices will go down for this 1st round of lenses.
Once they modify the barrel so the lens can mount more effectively on the M4 style.
Sort of like when the Nokton f1.2/35mm had to be modified for the M8.
I'm still waiting for my lens which seems lost at sea 😛
Once they modify the barrel so the lens can mount more effectively on the M4 style.
Sort of like when the Nokton f1.2/35mm had to be modified for the M8.
I'm still waiting for my lens which seems lost at sea 😛
raid
Dad Photographer
Most users are not M4 owners, so I don't think that M4 users are the main focus of 7artisans for marketing their new lenses to.
anorphirith
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unfortunately I am, so I have to wait until september- october , even if I weren't I would have still waited, since the first series will have a lower resale value
benmacphoto
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xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Some said that Leica M mount locking pin on the M4 is a tad bigger in diameter then what the 7 Artisans lens was made to accept, so it is a manufacturing tolerance issue that still has to be resolved by the Chinese lens maker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skHZ9nzQQl8&feature=youtu.be&t=3m14s
raid
Dad Photographer
This lens went for sale in Europe. Cost=EURO399 or approx. $460?
ulrich.von.lich
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The lens release button of the M4 is rounder and the extra part towards the lens mount prevents the lens from being mounted. It's the same for some big lenses such as the Canon 85mm f1.5 LTM.
Actually, even it's not mentioned by 7Artisans, I believe it will affect not only all M4 cameras, but also early M4-2 cameras (those with red dot on the release button are fine) and early M3 cameras.
This is an M3 on which the lens can be mounted:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...ca_M3_mg_3851.jpg/1280px-Leica_M3_mg_3851.jpg
And this is an M3 on which it cannot:
http://kenrockwell.com/leica/images/35mm-f2-m3/D3S_6832-1200.jpg
Watch them closely and you will notice the difference.
ulrich.von.lich
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Even it's an M mount lens, I doubt the price of the lens would ever go up. All Chinese goods only drop in price, never increase, which wouldn't make sense as you can always make more of them, easily.
raid
Dad Photographer
CV lenses have been going up in prices each year (for Leica cameras).
There could be similar increases for M lenses that are made in China.
ulrich.von.lich
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Some CV lenses were produced in small quality. For example, the 28mm f3.5, the 50mm f2.5, and even the CV mini finder, their prices went up due to the increased rarity. I find in general CV lenses haven't gone up in price if you take apart factors such as inflation and evolution of currencies, for example, the 40mm f1.4 are still selling for less than 300€ used here, as well as the 35mm f1.7 LTM.
Again they are Japanese goods, not Chinese. If 7Artisans can already make money by selling them at the actual price, they will do everything in their power to produce more and to sell more at the same price or cheaper.
Time will tell.
raid
Dad Photographer
7artisans may have a 50 1.0 lined up. It will cost more than the 50 1.1.
ulrich.von.lich
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What I said applies to the 50mm f1.1 only, obviously.
FrozenInTime
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I've read their E-mount 50/1 only covers APS-C
raid
Dad Photographer
This could be true.
They have 4 new lenses:
https://petapixel.com/2017/07/11/7artisans-unveils-four-new-affordable-lenses-mirrorless-cameras/
They have 4 new lenses:
https://petapixel.com/2017/07/11/7artisans-unveils-four-new-affordable-lenses-mirrorless-cameras/
pepeguitarra
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I was going to order from eBay at $320 9or best offer), but I read several negative comments on how hard it is to insert on the Leica M mount, and the hard to take it out. Also, some focusing issues. I will wait to see. In the meantime, my Canon 50/1.2 is going an excellent job.
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raid
Dad Photographer
I read only that the M4 has problems with having this lens mounted on it. The rest of the Leica M models should work well. Right?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I'm amazed that this lens has generated so much interest. It seems limited optically and you'll never convince me that the build quality could be much beyond a supermarket toaster. 😀
raid
Dad Photographer
If you somehow attach a lens to your toaster, you may get a very creative camera, Keith!
David Murphy
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Nice work with the Canon 50/1.2 pepeguitarra. I own and use one too and I'm ever impressed by it. So far it has no competition at it's price point in LTM - the other super-speeds in LTM are all rare and astronomically expensive. I'd be delighted though to see someone make a new fast LTM prime - probably unlikely these days as the Leica M mount seems to really taking over as a rangefinder full frame mount with broad third party support (which I can't complain about!).
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