kshapero
South Florida Man
Don't laugh but I have a D7000, great digital camera but more than I need. I only use it with a 35 (53) mm prime. Rather have a wider lens. What would I give up and what would I gain if I got an X100?
Nikon D7000 vs Fuji X100
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Jamie Pillers
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Akiva, I'm in the process of doing exactly the same move. (I've had the X100 previously but sold it to get the XPro1)
Obviously, you give up 4 megapixels. But you gain a huge bonus of much greater portability. In my way of thinking, the X100 would be with me MUCH more often than the D7000. The image quality, as measured by DXOmark shows the D7000 to produce better results. But my feeling is that if a camera engenders a greater sense of enthusiasm for making pictures, that's the one to go with. The X100 does that for me.
Now that my D7000 is sold, I'm waiting to see if the rumors about an 'X200' are going to pan out. The word is that it'll have the same sensor as the X-Pro1. If true, however, the X200 might then have the RAW conversion problems of the XPro1 (i.e.: very little third-party support for the Xtrans sensor RAW output.) The X100 doesn't have that problem and thus might be more attractive for anyone wanting to do a lot of PP with RAW files.
Obviously, you give up 4 megapixels. But you gain a huge bonus of much greater portability. In my way of thinking, the X100 would be with me MUCH more often than the D7000. The image quality, as measured by DXOmark shows the D7000 to produce better results. But my feeling is that if a camera engenders a greater sense of enthusiasm for making pictures, that's the one to go with. The X100 does that for me.
Now that my D7000 is sold, I'm waiting to see if the rumors about an 'X200' are going to pan out. The word is that it'll have the same sensor as the X-Pro1. If true, however, the X200 might then have the RAW conversion problems of the XPro1 (i.e.: very little third-party support for the Xtrans sensor RAW output.) The X100 doesn't have that problem and thus might be more attractive for anyone wanting to do a lot of PP with RAW files.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
1. The X200 rumors will pan out, I'm pretty sure. The Fuji reps I talked to were very confident that it will be announced at CES.
2. The XPro1 RAW conversion problems are (a) overstated, and (b) have essentially been solved by Phase One. I know this because I am beta testing the next release of Capture One Pro, and the IQ out of RAW files from the Fuji XTRANS sensor is absolutely stellar. What Phase One can do, Adobe can also do and I would expect to see announcements about that at CES with respect to LR5 and the next version of ACR.
Note: I have no business relationship with any imaging company, except as a paying customer.
2. The XPro1 RAW conversion problems are (a) overstated, and (b) have essentially been solved by Phase One. I know this because I am beta testing the next release of Capture One Pro, and the IQ out of RAW files from the Fuji XTRANS sensor is absolutely stellar. What Phase One can do, Adobe can also do and I would expect to see announcements about that at CES with respect to LR5 and the next version of ACR.
Note: I have no business relationship with any imaging company, except as a paying customer.
back alley
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can i horn in on your thread?
what about switching my sony rx100 for the fuji 100?
i have the sony and had the fuji and i still cannot decide...
what about switching my sony rx100 for the fuji 100?
i have the sony and had the fuji and i still cannot decide...
GaryLH
Veteran
Joe
I still use my x100 even though I also have the rx100 and xp1. If u don't need the versatility or packet ability of rx100, then go for the x100/200. I would wait for the x200 announcement and then decide which to get. I plan on using the x100 until it dies.. 😀
Gary
giellaleafapmu
Well-known
I doubt you would see much difference if any in a printed image. Of course, if you need fast autofocus and the ability to remotely trigger flashes then the choice is obvious as it is if you like small cameras with RF feeling. I think you can't go wrong either way...
GLF
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i might wait for the new x100s and then buy a black 100...
kshapero
South Florida Man
no problem chime in. Lots to consider.
GaryLH
Veteran
What u gain
- leaf shutter
-- absolutely silent shutter
-- flash synch at all shutter speeds
- much lighter, no back pain
- control surface layout that hardens back to the days of film
- an ovf perspective similar to an rf
- very sharp 35f2 equiv
The minus
- af not as fast
- need to relearn what makes focus work since it is contrast detection
- lens selection
My dslr has not sen much use for a long time now 😀..
Gary
- leaf shutter
-- absolutely silent shutter
-- flash synch at all shutter speeds
- much lighter, no back pain
- control surface layout that hardens back to the days of film
- an ovf perspective similar to an rf
- very sharp 35f2 equiv
The minus
- af not as fast
- need to relearn what makes focus work since it is contrast detection
- lens selection
My dslr has not sen much use for a long time now 😀..
Gary
Snowbuzz
Well-known
Ah, the X100. I thought going into the menu for the macro mode a bit weird. What really got me was exposures greater than 1/4 seconds in length requiring a special adjustment (can't remember now). So weird.
GaryLH
Veteran
The macro button is right on the rear panel.. The flower icon on te 4way controller.
What special adjustment are u talking about for shooting slower than 1/4 sec...?
Gary
Shutterspark
The perpetual new guy.
I think to sum it up I would say what you're mainly losing out on is speed of operation/focus/consecutive shooting (well, everything really). And then of course the versatility with lenses/wireless flash.
Image quality wise I wouldn't think the difference was big enough for it to matter to most.
I assume you know what you're gaining already, since you're considering the switch.
P.S. For the record I would choose the RX100 too, but it depends what you're after. Or rather, how much you really want to downsize.
Image quality wise I wouldn't think the difference was big enough for it to matter to most.
I assume you know what you're gaining already, since you're considering the switch.
P.S. For the record I would choose the RX100 too, but it depends what you're after. Or rather, how much you really want to downsize.
5:00 PM
It's a light machine
I love my X100. I mean, I really LOVE my X100. But I still consider it to be auxiliary to a pair of DSLRs, because I shoot a very broad range of subjects and a lot of action. Some of the best work I did last year was shooting the Fleet Week airshow over San Francisco Bay; no way I could get that done with my X100. But if you are a street shooter, landscape specialist or portrait person...you don't need any other stinkin' digital cameras!
avikrc
Established
The X100 has been my most used camera ever since I got it. I don't think I have taken the 400mm off my DSLR for the last year and half. It is wonderfully quite and unobtrusive with great image quality. Only thing I don't like is how the lens sometimes adds a distortion to people photographs. But that's true for all 35mm (equivalent) lenses.
daveleo
what?
I have had a Nikon DX camera for 2 years (plus six lenses, none of them "long") and the X100 for about 6 weeks. Over the decades, probably "everything" I shoot is close to 35mm (eq) focal length.
The X100 is pretty much what everyone says it is - cultishly fantastic. For "people" pictures, it is really nice because people don't seem to react stiffly as they do for a "real" camera 😀 .
If I had to choose, though, it would be a very tough choice, because I do love the versatility of a DSLR for playing with different lenses, esp bargain lenses that turn out great pictures.
I have printed just a few 8X10's and there is no "IQ" difference to the naked eye between the X100 prints and the D5100 prints.
I bought my X100 used, here on the classifieds, and got a "user" $650 bargain so I am extra happy about that. I see a black one was sold this morning for a fantastic $800 price ! ! . . . they ARE affordable !
EDIT: I notice you have Nikon F's (and I assume F lenses to play on them) . . . so I have made up my mind now. Toss the D7000 overboard and get the X100.
The X100 is pretty much what everyone says it is - cultishly fantastic. For "people" pictures, it is really nice because people don't seem to react stiffly as they do for a "real" camera 😀 .
If I had to choose, though, it would be a very tough choice, because I do love the versatility of a DSLR for playing with different lenses, esp bargain lenses that turn out great pictures.
I have printed just a few 8X10's and there is no "IQ" difference to the naked eye between the X100 prints and the D5100 prints.
I bought my X100 used, here on the classifieds, and got a "user" $650 bargain so I am extra happy about that. I see a black one was sold this morning for a fantastic $800 price ! ! . . . they ARE affordable !
EDIT: I notice you have Nikon F's (and I assume F lenses to play on them) . . . so I have made up my mind now. Toss the D7000 overboard and get the X100.
Kiev Ilegalac
Established
I have x100 for couple of months and I haven't used DSLR since I bought Fuji. As someone mentioned for street, people and landscapes it is perfect. Everything is said about AF, I never had any problems with it. I would go so far and say that it is the best camera I have ever used and I would never change it for dslr.
Alex
Alex
DarvOz
Member
For me photography is as much about the enjoyment I get while taking photographs, as opposed to just the end result. If all I cared about at the end of the day was the quality of image, pixel counts and perfectly framed photographs then I wouldn't look past a DSLR. The X100 offers fantastic quality, but it isnt a soul-less camera that simply gets the job done as efficiently as possible, it is a camera that is a joy to use, full of soul. The manual dials, aperture ring feel so natural, thinking about your shots is so much more important with the X100 i find, and as a result I love using it - not a week goes by where I dont take the X100 out of the house at least 3-4 times.
If there was one thing I would want to improve this camera it would be a mechanical focus mechanism as opposed to the focus by wire.
With the X200 looking like a certainty at CES I am not regretting my X100 purchase at all (I bought mine September 2012). This camera will be a classic, and while revised versions are inevitable the original will always remain the benchmark to which I hold future cameras of this ilk.
If there was one thing I would want to improve this camera it would be a mechanical focus mechanism as opposed to the focus by wire.
With the X200 looking like a certainty at CES I am not regretting my X100 purchase at all (I bought mine September 2012). This camera will be a classic, and while revised versions are inevitable the original will always remain the benchmark to which I hold future cameras of this ilk.
rbelyell
Well-known
i went through this same analysis 18 months ago with my 5d. i traded it straight up for a new x100 and have never regretted it. i took it as my only digital for a monthlong france trip and it performed fabulously, i carried it in my pocket, and i never once regretted not having my heavy dslr gear.
now i also have a lens/manual focus fetish to fulfill, so i sold off all my dslr lenses and bought a ricoh gxr m mount, which is extremely compact and great with small rf glass. best of both worlds...
tony
now i also have a lens/manual focus fetish to fulfill, so i sold off all my dslr lenses and bought a ricoh gxr m mount, which is extremely compact and great with small rf glass. best of both worlds...
tony
kshapero
South Florida Man
Looks like I will at least wait to hear about this announcement.
http://photorumors.com/2013/01/03/fuji-x100s-and-x20-to-be-announced-next-week-with-focus-peaking/
http://photorumors.com/2013/01/03/fuji-x100s-and-x20-to-be-announced-next-week-with-focus-peaking/
edge100
Well-known
To enter macro mode:
1. Press left on the selector on the back
2. Press left again
3. Press the "Menu/OK" button
Boom. Macro mode. Repeat to exit macro. You can do this without moving your eye away from the VF.
And there is no "special adjustment" for a >1/4s exposure.
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