Nokton 35/1.2 II + M9 = wow !!

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Do a search for Nokton Glove on google and this is the first image result...

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So, if you have a Summilux-ASPH 35, it is unwise and not necessary to lust for the Nokton 35 Ver 2?

.....Vick


leicashot said:
No way to tell for sure, but it would have to be between the Summilux and Nokton II. I know my Nokton 1 at f/2 was very good across the frame. I have never really rated the Summicron ASPH wide open, and it's bokeh is quite harsh IMHO.

Without testing it would be hard to put the Nokton ahead of the Summilux ASPH FLE, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was closer than you think.
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The red edge issues has nothing to do with the speed of the lens or really the focal length--its a function of the location of the rear nodal point of the lens relative to the sensor. Now, as the focal length of the lens shortens, the nodal point by necessity will get closer to the sensor, especially in a more symmetrical lens design--but the speed of the lens has nothing to do with it.

I've had a V2 for a week now and I'm doing some extensive comparisons between it and the V1. So far any differences I see are minor at best. I'll publish a blog post this weekend that will cover this in some detail.

Jeff
 
Vickko said:
So, if you have a Summilux-ASPH 35, it is unwise and not necessary to lust for the Nokton 35 Ver 2?

.....Vick
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I would say so, yes. The Summilux is smaller and sharper across the field.

The Nokton is a great alternative lens that's a lot cheaper.

Jeff
 
Vickko said:
So, if you have a Summilux-ASPH 35, it is unwise and not necessary to lust for the Nokton 35 Ver 2?

.....Vick
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Hey Vick, at the price of the Nokton, I believe its a wise move to give it a try. If you pixel peep at sharpness wide open I believe the Summilux will win. Overall signature, the Nokton is definitely smoother but at the cost of size and weight.

To me I prefer the Nokton II, and I to the Summilux and always have. It's always had the best balance between modern color with traditional rendering. The best way to describe them is that the Summilux draws with a modern printer, and the Nokton draws with a pencil and paintbrush.

What I'm seeing in the new Nokton is a slight increase in performance wide open, which bridges the gap between the Nokton and Summilux, so I think it's worth checking out. not necessarily as a replacement for your Summilux, but as an additional drawing tool in your paint set.
 
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JayM said:
Is it natural fiber or synthetic? My skin is sensitive to synthetic fibers. Here's hoping that a wool version is in the works.
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Heads Up: there is a Nokton Glove on eBay up for auction; its selling for a pretty penny, but I'm going to hold out for the Summilux glove. It cost 10 times more, but it will make my pictures that much better.
 
I just got the Nokton II and sold the 35 Lux ASPH I. The Nokton II IS sharper wide open and also obviously stopped down not having the focus shift issue like the Lux ASPH I. The Lux ASPH FLE is supposed to be slightly sharper than the Lux ASPH I (never tried that one) but as Kristian says I wouldn't be surprised if the Nokton is very close in performance. I will say one thing that is far nicer (to my eyes) on the Nokton than the Lux ASPH FLE is the bokeh.
 
he he he.... just bought one.

My favourite supplier in Montreal just got a shipment.

Oh, can't wait for the mail (damn, they aren't shipping on Monday - Labour Day)

:)

Vick
 
I don't think the FLE is sharper than the ASPH, as I tested both, but the FLE is better corrected. So if you believe the Nokton II is sharper than the ASPH, it will also be sharper than the FLE, but this remains to be seen, or tested. I'm still waiting to find someone who's willing to put their FLE to the test against the new Nokton.
 
Ok, so something I should have tested, but forgot was how well this lens performs when stopped down to 1.4.

On the version 1 there was a slight jump in contrast and very minor increase in sharpness. On the version 2 I am seeing a much more noticeable improvement when at 1.4 - and the extra DOF may also help a little with the 'perception of increased sharpness'. This really draws this lens much closer to the Summilux ASPH and FLE, at least around the center of the frame.
 
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helenhill said:
Me thinks You took these Puggie shots for me.....:)
my 2 pugs ....'Bully & Lulubelle' want me to shoot them with a v2 now

Cheers- H
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I was wondering when you'd speak up Helen. I'm hoping to be there in NYC end of this month for an RFF meet up and hope you can make it!
 
leicashot said:
Hey Vick, at the price of the Nokton, I believe its a wise move to give it a try. If you pixel peep at sharpness wide open I believe the Summilux will win. Overall signature, the Nokton is definitely smoother but at the cost of size and weight.

To me I prefer the Nokton II, and I to the Summilux and always have. It's always had the best balance between modern color with traditional rendering. The best way to describe them is that the Summilux draws with a modern printer, and the Nokton draws with a pencil and paintbrush.

What I'm seeing in the new Nokton is a slight increase in performance wide open, which bridges the gap between the Nokton and Summilux, so I think it's worth checking out. not necessarily as a replacement for your Summilux, but as an additional drawing tool in your paint set.
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I no longer own my 35 LUX ASPH but in reviewing a bunch of images shot with that lens and comparing them with similar images from my V2 35/1.2, I believe that the Nokton is slightly sharper at f1.2 and much sharper in the middle apertures (due to lack of focus shift). But general rendering and bokeh is more "deliciouso" with the the Nokton.

I regret never giving the V1 a fair run. I was somewhat put off by the size. And it seemed overly soft and lacking in contrast wide open. Perhaps the sample I tried was below par. Who knows? Either way, this V2 is a cracker !!
 
leicashot said:
On the version 1 there was a slight jump in contrast and very minor increase in sharpness. On the version 2 I am seeing a much more noticeable improvement when at 1.4 - and the extra DOF may also help a little with the 'perception of increased sharpness'. This really draws this lens much closer to the Summilux ASPH and FLE, at least around the center of the frame.
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Ahh ... so it wasn't just my imagination !!
 
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