Muggins
Junk magnet
Out of curiosity, when did Leica begin to use "standard" 35mm cartridges? I believe that Nagel introduced them in about 1935, so obviously Leica had been going their own way for some years before they appeared.
Adrian
Adrian
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
Back to home today and by coincidence I will be lunching in London on Thursday near two Leica dealers within easy tube connections. I'm inclined to think a IIIF is a good place to start as a camera to use for shooting.
Dralowid
Michael
Lunching with two dealers? You are doomed...ah, just re-read your post.
Yes, IIIc or IIIf are good starting points and comparatively inexpensive. Also, if you are not bothered about slow speeds, good IIfs can be a real bargain.
Condition, condition, condition. Apart from the obvious make sure the second rangefinder image is good and clear.
Yes, IIIc or IIIf are good starting points and comparatively inexpensive. Also, if you are not bothered about slow speeds, good IIfs can be a real bargain.
Condition, condition, condition. Apart from the obvious make sure the second rangefinder image is good and clear.
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
As we're all trying to dissuade the OP by showing our LTM beauties.......
CameraWorks-UK special, Leica IIIc (1940) with Xenon (1938)

CameraWorks-UK special, Leica IIIc (1940) with Xenon (1938)
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
Aargh, appalling sentence editing from me there. Corrected.
I can resist everything except temptation!
I can resist everything except temptation!
Dralowid
Michael
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hmmm, I would say that a good starting point would be the classic model II with an Elmar in front. Far less to go wrong, no misplaced 3mm coaxial and so on.
Regards, David
Regards, David
dave lackey
Veteran
As we're all trying to dissuade the OP by showing our LTM beauties.......
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CameraWorks-UK special, Leica IIIc (1940) with Xenon (1938)
Hmmm...
Give a mouse a cookie...
Scrambler
Well-known
Out of curiosity, when did Leica begin to use "standard" 35mm cartridges? I believe that Nagel introduced them in about 1935, so obviously Leica had been going their own way for some years before they appeared.
Adrian
I understand that it was the M cameras that used the slightly shorter Kodak design. I have copies of the Leica cartridges but also two Agfa cartridges for (as I understand it) loading with film packed like a 220. The Agfa cartridges can be loaded with modern 135 innards, but dark loaded and theres not much gain. The older designs will not fit in modern cameras designed for 135.
Great explanation at this link:
http://www.nearbycafe.com/artandpho...guest-post-16-rob-mcelroy-on-robert-capa-2-a/
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Leica II 74510, Elmar 35mm 11-o-clock coupled, SBLOO black paint.
Erik.
Erik.

David Hughes
David Hughes
Here's a row of them but I can't have BM'd the page they first appeared on with a list of the heights etc.
I ought to redo the picture with the Perutz and Agfa/Velvet reloadable cassette added and, the pre-war refills, loaded and so on. Here's a taster or two:-
I hope that helps. The trouble is that, every time I look at my website, I see so much work that I wonder how I'll ever find the time to sort it out. And a few people have lifted pictures from it, to add to the fun. I wouldn't mind if they'd ask and acknowledge it but there you are...
Regards, David

I ought to redo the picture with the Perutz and Agfa/Velvet reloadable cassette added and, the pre-war refills, loaded and so on. Here's a taster or two:-



I hope that helps. The trouble is that, every time I look at my website, I see so much work that I wonder how I'll ever find the time to sort it out. And a few people have lifted pictures from it, to add to the fun. I wouldn't mind if they'd ask and acknowledge it but there you are...
Regards, David
I've been trying out three screw mounts recently. They are growing on me, but I still think the Contax is a better user. The Reid III impresses me with its build. I had not noticed until I had them both together, but it is noticeably heavier than a IIIf or IIIg. It may be the most beautifully made of the lot. The lens is a solid little unit too. For some reason I did the unheard of and left the house with a digital camera yesterday when we walked the dogs, and I grabbed a couple of pics near the Derwent. These will be off to new homes in due course.



Erik van Straten
Veteran
I like the IIIc too, but then only in all black.
Erik.
Erik.

As we're all trying to dissuade the OP by showing our LTM beauties.......
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CameraWorks-UK special, Leica IIIc (1940) with Xenon (1938)
The Starkies do wonderful work.
Someday will need to have them do a gray paint Barnack for me.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
The grey IIIc is very smooth, thanks to the ball bearings of the shutter mechanism.
Erik.
Erik.

helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
miss shooting since my M is at Youxin's ... so I found this Gem
arriving on my Birthday the 1 Feb
Miss 50 Color Skopar will mount her Beautifully
Miss Leica II... by Helen Hill, on Flickr
arriving on my Birthday the 1 Feb
Miss 50 Color Skopar will mount her Beautifully

lxmike
M2 fan.
lxmike
M2 fan.
The grey IIIc is very smooth, thanks to the ball bearings of the shutter mechanism.
Erik.
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thats lovely and l can hear the original posters resolve crumbling as l type
lxmike
M2 fan.
The grey IIIc is very smooth, thanks to the ball bearings of the shutter mechanism.
Erik.
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Smooth and cool Erik, smooth and cool
lxmike
M2 fan.
miss shooting since my M is at Youxin's ... so I found this Gem
arriving on my Birthday the 1 Feb
Miss 50 Color Skopar will mount her Beautifully
Miss Leica II... by Helen Hill, on Flickr
very very nice Helen enjoy, that arrival should brighten up the cold of winter
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